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Jessica - Jan 02, 2021 7:44:08 am PST #1764 of 2007
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I really do not like the way Chibnall writes The Doctor. Everything I didn't like about Revolution of the Daleks really just boils down to that. I think his take on the character is wrong and badly done, and I don't like it.


sj - Jan 02, 2021 8:03:14 am PST #1765 of 2007
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I thought The Doctor was written much better in this episode than in previous episodes by Chibnall.


Jessica - Jan 02, 2021 8:53:18 am PST #1766 of 2007
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

That's twice now this version of the Doctor has essentially summoned Nazis to take care of her enemies for her and it really bothers me that Chibnall keeps going back to that very specific well without, apparently, any intention of addressing it as such. I'm honestly not sure he knows he's doing it.


-t - Jan 02, 2021 12:35:46 pm PST #1767 of 2007
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I see what you mean, Jess. I thought the premise of humans cobbling together something dalek-like to use as anti-riot gear was pretty promising but it didn't go anywhere I hoped.

I did like how Ryan and Graham leaving was handled.


sj - Jan 02, 2021 5:01:52 pm PST #1768 of 2007
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Jessica, I hadn't thought of it that way, but I definitely see your point. I was speaking more to the way she spoke that sounded more Doctor like to me than last season did, and less preachiness.

-t, I agree with your second point. It was the least traumatic exit for companions I remember, and I loved the bicycle bit at the end.


billytea - Jan 05, 2021 5:09:59 pm PST #1769 of 2007
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

That's twice now this version of the Doctor has

And on the previous occasion, specifically weaponising actual Nazis' racism against an apparent person of colour.

Jessica, I hadn't thought of it that way, but I definitely see your point. I was speaking more to the way she spoke that sounded more Doctor like to me than last season did, and less preachiness.

Aside from her choice of resolution, I tend to agree, at least partly. A big complaint I have with how Chibnall writes the Thirteenth Doctor is lack of agency. At least she took an active part in the resolution of this adventure. Conversely, I can't imagine any previous incarnation taking imprisonment so passively - maybe Six for an initial period of time - and I still have no idea what imprisoning her was supposed to accomplish in the first place if she'd do so little there and then get rescued in such a perfunctory fashion.

I also agree that it was refreshing to see a companion actually leave out of personal choice and without any apparent trauma. Hasn't happened since Mel with the Seventh Doctor. Emotionally it felt a bit stilted - maybe ten months was too long for me too? Not sure. (And I thought after Jack broke her out of at least nineteen years' imprisonment and had given this heartfelt speech to Yaz about how you can't just give up the Doctor, his taking off was rather perfunctory.)


-t - Jan 05, 2021 5:13:13 pm PST #1770 of 2007
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Quote I can't imagine any previous incarnation taking imprisonment so passively

Yes, that did not feel right. Although the repartee with the Silence was funny


dcp - Jan 27, 2021 4:17:42 pm PST #1771 of 2007
"I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam," -- Popeye

Resident Alien pilot airs on SyFy tonight.


dcp - Jan 27, 2021 7:56:04 pm PST #1772 of 2007
"I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam," -- Popeye

Ummmm. Not really taken with it. We'll see how it goes.


Toddson - Feb 09, 2021 8:01:02 am PST #1773 of 2007
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I don't know if anyone else saw it, but there was a new Black Lightning last night.