Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Mar 30, 2017 9:32:08 am PDT #9174 of 30002
hip deep in pie

Do you work with Shaq or something?


Gudanov - Mar 30, 2017 9:50:05 am PDT #9175 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Flat earth?!? Seriously??? Who ARE these people??

Yeah. That's really weird. I mean, aside from everything else, you can, you know, fly around it.


Gudanov - Mar 30, 2017 9:50:52 am PDT #9176 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

OTOH, Trump is President, so flat earth? Sure, why not.


Connie Neil - Mar 30, 2017 9:53:52 am PDT #9177 of 30002
brillig

I didn't pay too much attention to the "logic" of the arguments. I think it's a case of "How can I be clever and rile people up?" rather than actual belief.


Jessica - Mar 30, 2017 9:54:15 am PDT #9178 of 30002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Unlimited time off has gotten to be a pretty common perk in techlandia - the upside is not having to do the obsessive how many hours do I have left thing, and the companies that do it right really are more humane than most. The downside is that some companies abuse it - either by dangling it as a perk when workload is too high to ever take it, or using the fact that there isn't a fixed amount in the compensation package to avoid paying out accrued time when people leave.

Or punishing people who take "too much" time off in other intangible ways. I like having a set number of days that I am entitled to as a part of my overall compensation, because there is no question about taking too much time off.


Dana - Mar 30, 2017 10:17:10 am PDT #9179 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I don't think my manager is the type to punish people for taking too much time. She's kind of a pushover.

I imagine this will have more of an impact on the foreigners who work in our US office, who take extended trips home.


lisah - Mar 30, 2017 10:18:21 am PDT #9180 of 30002
Punishingly Intricate

Most American corporate culture sucks.


NoiseDesign - Mar 30, 2017 10:56:11 am PDT #9181 of 30002
Our wings are not tired

But really, use-or-lose forced me to change my perspective and get more serious about carving out time away, even if it was mostly long weekends or half-days here and there instead of true vacations. And it really does make a difference in terms of life balance/mental health.

This is the way I have things set up for the employees, it's use it or lose it, and with 6 weeks per year most of them actually don't quite use all of their vacation time. The idea is to encourage the to take the time off when we have some slow periods, because when we are busy, we are really busy.


flea - Mar 30, 2017 11:00:04 am PDT #9182 of 30002
information libertarian

I get a lot of vacation, and am strongly discouraged from using it in more than week-at-a-time chunks. Like, I have 180 hours banked right now and so could in theory take the 3 weeks in a row that the kids spend with my mother off and be at the beach too, but my boss would never approve it. I might try to sneak 2 weeks. Part of the reason is we're tightly staffed and so if we've got an open position (which we often do for one reason or another) anybody being out makes it tight for everyone else.


Jesse - Mar 30, 2017 1:21:29 pm PDT #9183 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Two weeks really ought to feel like a standard amount of all-at-once vacation. Which basically assumes getting more than 10 days/year, which I know is not as common as it should be.

That said, I'm about to take two weeks off for the second time in my employed life (20+ years).