No. And yes. It's always sudden.

Tara ,'Storyteller'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Jan 10, 2017 1:31:11 am PST #5264 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

The all-meat chili sounds like what I put in burritos. And it's delicious! But my mental image of chili is Grandma Maisie's Depression Era, descendent of German immigrants chili, minus the rice. In fact, I think I'll make some today. [link]


Jesse - Jan 10, 2017 2:36:58 am PST #5265 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I was just talking to one of my nurse friends about this and she said that food poisoning symptoms can occur up to weeks after eating the contaminated food so it's really difficult to pin down what specific food may have caused a bout.

That is so crazy to me!


Sue - Jan 10, 2017 3:20:35 am PST #5266 of 30002
hip deep in pie

I met with someone yesterday who pronounced meta like "meet-a," and he said meta a lot. It was very strange.


Kat - Jan 10, 2017 4:34:47 am PST #5267 of 30002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

One of the things that I retained from some history class or other was that whatever period we were looking at (18th or 19th century Europe, probably) was marked by a transition from people belonging to a community determined mostly by geography and class towards people belonging to societies determined by shared interests and/or goals that might cut across class and span greater geographical areas, and that seems to be even more true today.

So interesting. And dovetails with the differences between society (as you've listed, but also with the idea that society has sort of contractual roles -- you can to a limited extent decide what roles you want to fulfill) and community which is more about what roles you were born into and all of the baggage and bonuses attached to that. Conflict seems to occur when people want community in a place where society is more important and vice versa.


Steph L. - Jan 10, 2017 4:35:22 am PST #5268 of 30002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Beer. It's meat, spices, and beer.

That is...not a type of chili I've ever had. Interesting.


Dana - Jan 10, 2017 4:49:06 am PST #5269 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

In a sad coincidence, my husband is home sick with what he thinks is food poisoning.


-t - Jan 10, 2017 5:02:41 am PST #5270 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, good point about conflict, Kat. I hadn't thought about it quite like that. I tend to get irritated with people calling for community-building when what I think is needed is more societal attitudes, the other way around is something I should definitely think about.

Oh, hey, I could thaw out some meat today and make chili tonight! Nice. It'll have to be beanless, though, unless I go shopping. The chili I grew up with was made with pink beans or maybe pinto beans, dried not canned. I wouldn't care if someone served me chili made with canned beans, but it would feel weird to make that myself.

Garnishes, specifically sour cream although I am curious about cheese, onions, etc. also: stirred in for a homogeneous bowl or spooned up together but distinct?

Now that I have slept badly after drinking too much coffee yesterday, I will of course need more coffee to get through today. The caffeine monkey is mean and bitter.


-t - Jan 10, 2017 5:06:18 am PST #5271 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm sorry, Dana. Ugh.

And I am astounded by the prospect of food poisoning taking weeks to show up. Hours make sense to me, and would confuse the issue of what is to blame enough, weeks is hard to comprehend.


Calli - Jan 10, 2017 5:09:07 am PST #5272 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I guess it depends on the incubation time for the organism causing the food poisoning. Perhaps some grow faster than others? Anyway, sorry about your DH's bout, Dana.

Today's another work from home day, and my chili (or "chili" if you don't believe in the beany version) is simmering away on the stove.


lisah - Jan 10, 2017 5:23:38 am PST #5273 of 30002
Punishingly Intricate

I guess it depends on the incubation time for the organism causing the food poisoning. Perhaps some grow faster than others?

I think that's it, basically. My friend and I were talking about this because some lady was claiming on an online neighborhood forum to have gotten food poisoning from a specific dish at a local restaurant. There is no way she could have actually known this was true and blaming the restaurant was irresponsible and unfair. Also, annoying.