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'Life of the Party'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Oct 30, 2016 12:53:43 pm PDT #386 of 30002
brillig

I've got almost more PTO than I can use after ten years, but I'm only allowed to use it a week at a time.


Steph L. - Oct 30, 2016 2:00:59 pm PDT #387 of 30002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

A week at a time isn't bad, though.


lisah - Oct 30, 2016 2:11:56 pm PDT #388 of 30002
Punishingly Intricate

That sucks you can't take more than a week-long vacation!! I'm super lucky to be working at a place with unlimited pto now and they seem to really encourage actually taking unconnected time off. Work anniversary presents are $$ towards vacation. My grandboss used her 3 year gift to go to a yoga retreat out west this spring. Am hoping it works out that I can keep working here for a while and the benefits don't change!!


-t - Oct 30, 2016 2:38:58 pm PDT #389 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm only allowed to use it a week at a time.

Officially? If you wanted to take a 10-day trip you wouldn't be able to? That's not right.

Unlimited PTO, I think I would be tempted to abuse that.


sarameg - Oct 30, 2016 2:40:31 pm PDT #390 of 30002

I just pointed someone your way! Will give you guys her name if she applies. While my workplace is pretty good, I've learned over the summer we have one exceptionally toxic department. I'm kinda flabbergasted at the shit I've learned because it is so not the prevailing culture. But it has a very different line of accountability and authority.

I posit a hypothetical scenario in which a couple of whispered-as-bullies-managers fired every senior staff they'd had a professional conflict with, citing budget where they couldn't find "cause" that would let them avoid severance. Those hypothetically fired with cause, let's just suppose the discovery was not performed by hr and is ethically but not legally dubious. Hypothetical employees had no idea they were being targeted and had nothing previously documented against them. A month later, positions might've been posted with slightly changed wording to pass the sniff test.

I wouldn't be surprised if a hypothetical ombudsman got some anonymous submissions from coworkers of those fired.


Jesse - Oct 30, 2016 2:41:31 pm PDT #391 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

We're on strict use-or-lose in the fiscal year (although I have a feeling mine is the only department that actually tracks), so last year I had an extra week to kill in June and this year I'm scrimping all year to take a two-week trip next June.


Jesse - Oct 30, 2016 2:42:08 pm PDT #392 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh jeez, Sara.


Sue - Oct 30, 2016 2:51:39 pm PDT #393 of 30002
hip deep in pie

I get 5 weeks of vacation a year. We can carry over another week to the next year, and put 4 into a bank. My bank is full. So in theory, I've had 9-10 weeks to take off. I don't know how the bosses would take it if I tried to take it all at once.

We also have a deferred leave, but I think the minimum one can take is 3 months, and I don't think I could live on 2/3 salary.


Connie Neil - Oct 30, 2016 2:56:26 pm PDT #394 of 30002
brillig

Officially? If you wanted to take a 10-day trip you wouldn't be able to? That's not right.

I could ask for some extraordinary trip, I suppose, but the bosses would frown on it and I'd have to take it at a historically slow time.


sarameg - Oct 30, 2016 3:49:46 pm PDT #395 of 30002

Yeah, as the stories trickle in, I'm pretty much disgusted. And marveling at the contrast in mgmt and dealings with HR. My mgmt is extremely protective of us. And when they went to HR, it did the work to protect us. But apparently HR willl also do the work if mgmt is toxic. Which, no offense intended to HR folk here, lines up with all advice I've ever heard with dealing with HR as an employee: always bet they're on mgmt's side first no matter what, yours last, and protect yourself.

Never complain about a coworker in work media, email or whatever, except in the most professional terms. Even to a personal friend. Someone has it in for you, they can use it.

I have good leave now, 5 weeks vacation accruable to something ridiculous. 5 weeks sick once I hit the new year (I've got a probationary term now, prorated or something. )Now I just gotta accrue.