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'War Stories'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Sep 21, 2018 9:23:11 am PDT #29772 of 30002
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Great. NYT is reporting that Rosenstein floated the idea of wearing a wire around Trump and possibly invoking the 25th. Any chance Trump waits until Monday to fire him, or can we measure the time in hours?


-t - Sep 21, 2018 9:29:37 am PDT #29773 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

How has he managed to avoid getting fired until now? It's remarkable, in a way.


Laura - Sep 21, 2018 9:35:16 am PDT #29774 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

I hope a wire was worn and that we get to listen, soon. I know it is all falling apart and will be history before long, but this freak show has been pure torture. And we only know a portion of it.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 21, 2018 9:36:33 am PDT #29775 of 30002
What is even happening?

I think hours, Dana. It's a Friday. I'm pretty positive this story was leaked by Trump allies to (a) distract from Dr. Blasey Ford's allegations against Kavanaugh, and (b) to give Trump an excuse to fire Rosenstein, now that it seems Cohen is cooperating with Mueller.

I hope Rachel Maddow wasn't counting on a light night.

Zen, here's to you getting all better, right quick.

I'm glad things went well, Maria.

Not every man is a predator, no, but there is nothing in place in our society that teaches them to be otherwise.

We (parents) are the main thing in place, and we're outnumbered.

Weirdly related, this summer my (young adult) kids started watching Law & Order: SVU. It never appealed to me, because I thought of it by the nickname Allyson gave it, "Law & Order: Crimes Against Vaginas."

I've watched it with them on occasion, and it does a solid job of covering issues of consent, victim shaming, and incorporating into the story the fact that false allegations are few and far between. They also talk about why survivors don't report, etc.

I still can't watch it all the time. It can overwhelm me, but I feel far more pleased at the way tell these stories than I expected to be. It's not a perfect show, but it gets a passing grade, imo.

And the idea that my daughter is hearing things like "Boys will be boys" and "It was all just in fun" is heartbreaking and infuriating.

Yup! I'm so glad my daughter is 19. I wish, in this respect, she was even ten years older. She's a pretty political young woman though, and a strong feminist. I'm glad she has that foundation.

All we can do is talk about these things with our kids (girls AND boys) and hope they get it.


Sheryl - Sep 21, 2018 1:46:34 pm PDT #29776 of 30002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Tired. Alas, the weekend is no longer a time to rest, due to toddler-wrangling.


-t - Sep 21, 2018 2:29:43 pm PDT #29777 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

In mememe news, it's 4:30 and I'm already thinking that if I feed the cats now I can lie in bed and read until I fall asleep.


aurelia - Sep 21, 2018 2:40:55 pm PDT #29778 of 30002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I don't know what to say to you, Gud. Thank you, or I hear you, or I share your pain. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with people. Particularly with old white Republican men, though I know there are also women (probably white women) out there saying the same things. It's horrible. I'm so angry.

Agreed.

I don't particularly enjoy calling out sick to work, but it seems today was a good day to do so. I had to call my assistant this afternoon to follow up on an email from today and learned that he had borne the brunt of a fit from our boss over a project the boss has been ignoring, so we were doing what needed done without him. The. A few minutes ago my assistant texted a news report about a suspicious package causing the block to be shut down. They were evacuated from the building for an hour at the start of the evening rush.


-t - Sep 21, 2018 3:27:41 pm PDT #29779 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Dear lord, aurela. Yikes.


Laura - Sep 21, 2018 3:52:25 pm PDT #29780 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Yikes, aurelia. Yes, a good day to call out sick. Sorry about the sick part! Also, hoping the package wasn't a bad thing.


Consuela - Sep 21, 2018 3:54:20 pm PDT #29781 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Bought my sister a cocktail, since stupid people are calling her racist in public. Bah. What's that about the left eating its own?

It's time to start working on my fruitcake, I think. Need to inventory my dried fruit and hit the organic food coop.