I swear, one of these times, you're gonna wake up in a coma.

Cordelia ,'Showtime'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 25, 2018 6:57:31 pm PDT #28828 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

((Karl))

You are what I call an Alan Alda man - kind, sensitive and open to your feeling. I have also gotten a lot of comfort here as as the opposite- a judgemental woman, so I hope we help.


Karl - Aug 25, 2018 7:24:59 pm PDT #28829 of 30002
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.

Thank you, friends. Catching up on Natter, a long, hot shower, dinner, and a nap did manage to bring me back to something approaching normalcy.

Sometimes it's all just a bit much, you know? I count myself very lucky to have all of you and your kind words to lean on.

Hugs to those who need/want them.


P.M. Marc - Aug 25, 2018 8:08:32 pm PDT #28830 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You've been through some real shit, Karl. I am glad a bit of a break and some food/showering helped. Gentle hugs here for when you need them.


Shir - Aug 25, 2018 11:19:04 pm PDT #28831 of 30002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh Sophia. A lot of empathy to you. It is difficult. Echos to what Jesse wrote.

Yay Sue's dad! Continued ~ma for recovry.

A whole lot of love, Karl.

I'm back at work after a difficult weekend, woke up today with a migraine, and I have difficult reading materials to catalog (semi-gov records from a then-important minister on 1948 war. While I love history, it sometimes breaks your heart). But at least it's quiet and there's AC and coffee. And co-worker realized about two weeks ago that I'm not a talkie-socializing person.


Jesse - Aug 26, 2018 3:15:48 am PDT #28832 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hang in there, Karl.

And co-worker realized about two weeks ago that I'm not a talkie-socializing person.

That seems promising!


Theodosia - Aug 26, 2018 3:31:57 am PDT #28833 of 30002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Compared to last Sunday morning, I'm in a much better position Lyft-wise: 3 more rides to get to my target bonus total, and 6 more have to be in the prime hours, which go 11am to 1pm.


billytea - Aug 26, 2018 4:35:02 am PDT #28834 of 30002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I have to fill you guys in on this. You know I'm a keen follower of American politics, partly because Australian politics is nowhere near as entertaining. But this week has been a doozy. We have a new Prime Minister! The seventh PM in eleven years, and the fourth to take power through a party room coup rather than winning an election. Our PM for the last three years has been Malcolm Turnbull, independently wealthy and known for attempting to abolish the monarchy. He's been leading our right-wing party (called the Liberal Party, just to confuse American visitors), though he himself is not socially conservative. He took power by knifing the previous PM, Tony Abbott, on the grounds that Abbott was a reactionary moron who was roughly as electorally popular as scrapie. Being an entirely valid criticism (three criticisms), Turnbull won. However, to win the conservative faction's support, he basically promised to roll over for them at any opportunity. He spent his time in office running from his own principles on climate change, same-sex marriage and republicanism, with the result that while he could beat scrapie in an election, he might struggle against, say, a prolonged bout of tinea.

He nonetheless foolishly called a double dissolution election in 2016 on the pressing issue of investigating union corruption, and just union corruption, with the understanding that the VERY IDEA of corruption among the banks, businesses or right-wing politicians is just laughable. Laughable, I tell you! With this master stroke, he managed to reduce his party's majority in the House of Reps to exactly one. (Granted, it was the first time in over ten years that a sitting government had kept any majority, but still.) More than that, due to the vagaries of a double dissolution election, he managed to give succour to the wackaloons of Australian politics. One Nation, our very own brain-dead xenophobes, returned to parliament with four Senate seats. The government finished nine seats short of a Senate Majority.

Naturally, after the election, the demand for a commission investigating union misdeeds (i.e. the entire justification for the election) disappeared without trace. However, public outcry forced a commission into the banking sector, which is still ongoing and revealing truly astonishing levels of corruption. Polling reveals that Australians would now rather entrust their savings to "under the mattress, even if the mattress were on actual fire at the time". The government, having fought against this commission for months, is once again panicked by scrapie's resurgence in the opinion polls, and indeed the suggestion that ebola might be a viable dark horse candidate.

Now, when I say "the conservative faction", you mustn't think they're a unified group. I mean, they all hate Turnbull, but they're split between the ones who think Abbott should be PM again and the young bloods who believe there are entirely new ways to offend and outrage the electorate, and entirely new morons who should have the chance to do so. On that distinction, Turnbull has held power lo these three years. But with the Libs facing oblivion at the next election, Turnbull's one argument to stay in power was in tatters. This was not helped by Abbott basically attempting to bring the government down from with. Apparently he has to destroy the Lib's chances in order to save them. Mission half complete.

The election also spawned the most ludicrous and pointless political scandal I've ever witnessed. Our Constitution specifies that people standing for Parliament can't have dual citizenship. It was subsequently discovered that eight senators and seven representatives were in breach - including the deputy PM, revealed to be a closet Kiwi. The senators were all booted and replaced by also-rans from the same ticket. The reps were also booted and forced a series of by-elections. The booted bods won most of these, after renouncing their foreign entanglements.


billytea - Aug 26, 2018 4:35:03 am PDT #28835 of 30002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

The deputy PM won his by-election, then two months later announced that he had impregnated a former staff member, and was leaving his wife and four daughters to raise his fresh spawn. He didn't see any reason why this should concern his electorate, and remains a member of Parliament.

In the interim, Australia held a referendum on same-sex marriage. This was demanded by the conservative faction and designed to try to nobble the "yes" vote. Turnbull gave them almost everything they wanted. It came to naught, and Australia voted in favour - 62% of votes on an 80% turnout (the vote was voluntary). Tony Abbott's electorate went Yes by 75%. It is now law.

Now. When Turnbull knifed Abbott, he cited the fact that the Libs had lost 30 Newspolls in a row. Turnbull's government has now lost 38 Newspolls in a row. The govt did poorly in July by-elections. The one thing keeping him was in the job was that they had no one better. The final straw was when he got rolled by Abbott's mob on energy policy. To try to stop a revolt, Turnbull jettisoned Australia's emissions target from the Paris Accord. It didn't work. Instead one of Abbott's acolytes, Peter Dutton, attempted the most cack-handed coup in Australia's history. On Friday he forced a leadership vote. Turnbull promptly declined to stand again. Dutton lost the vote to Turnbull's Treasurer, Scott Morrison. Abbott etc brought down the government in order to make no change to government policy whatsoever.

One final parting gift. Turnbull had earlier promised that if he lost the leadership he would resign from Parliament, as it was too destabilising to have a former PM hanging about like Banquo's ghost (I'm looking at you, Abbott). He is still promising to do so, forcing a by-election. A reminder: the government's majority in Parliament is... one seat. Vale Turnbull. As one commentator said, "He leaves a proud legacy of the banking royal commission he failed to stop, corporate tax cuts he failed to start and the National Energy Guarantee he failed to understand."

In conclusion, a bit of trivia for you: the Australian PM is the highest-paid government leader in the OECD. This is some value for money we're getting, I think you'll agree.


Dana - Aug 26, 2018 4:38:55 am PDT #28836 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Damn, billytea. That is epic.


billytea - Aug 26, 2018 4:47:14 am PDT #28837 of 30002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Damn, billytea. That is epic.

Seriously. The last time a PM served a full term in this country was over ten years ago. Stability!