Health ~ma for your dad, Sue! And supporting ~ma to you.
And congratulations to the Teacups! Man, I suck at meara'ing.
Four-hour meetings should not be allowed, and best friends should have to stay put.
To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice, with pie.
Anya ,'Sleeper'
Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Amy - Aug 14, 2018 11:29:48 am PDT #28361 of 30002
Because books.
Shir - Aug 14, 2018 11:40:45 am PDT #28362 of 30002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
Zvi
Oh, if I'm not mistaken it's Hebrew for William. Means deer in modern Hebrew.
EpicTangent - Aug 14, 2018 11:48:36 am PDT #28363 of 30002
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty
You have EARNED a nap, Jessica.
Jessica - Aug 14, 2018 11:53:08 am PDT #28364 of 30002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Maybe I can fall asleep on the train. Because as soon as I get home it's off to plead my case for a bigger driveway to the zoning appeals board, yay!
billytea - Aug 14, 2018 2:02:28 pm PDT #28365 of 30002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
If you're not going to be venturing much past the center of the city, no need for a rental car (and honestly, driving in Philly scares me in a way driving in NYC never did).
Agree on the public transport situation. I mean, it's not the best city for it, but it'll get you around the centre of town (I can spell it centre because THAT'S HOW THEY DO IN PHILLY [link]
I would also agree on the driving, probably, if I'd ever gone driving in NYC. I can say that I'd made up my mind driving there would be ok while being shown some apartments by my estate agent. (I figured if he could reach the age he was while driving like he did, then I should do fine.)
Amy - Aug 14, 2018 2:27:18 pm PDT #28366 of 30002
Because books.
I think Manhattan just makes more sense to me. It really is a grid, except for downtown, and you can't go too far wrong without hitting a river.
billytea - Aug 14, 2018 2:47:25 pm PDT #28367 of 30002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
I think Manhattan just makes more sense to me. It really is a grid, except for downtown, and you can't go too far wrong without hitting a river.
Hitting a river seems a fairly harsh punishment for getting things wrong. Meanwhile, did you see this paper comparing city grids via a simple infographic? [link] Manhattan is indeed more dedicated to the grid layout than Philly, though the latter is still clearly grid-dominated. (Compare to Boston, for instance.)
There's a follow-up page doing world cities: [link] Unsurprisingly, older cities like Rome and London do not show fealty to the grid. Melbourne does, and then runs trams down them for added bonus. Sydney is a very interesting case I this regard. There's a dominant grid above a certain level, and utter chaos below it.
Connie Neil - Aug 14, 2018 2:55:40 pm PDT #28368 of 30002
brillig
Utah cities are so dedicated to the grid system that the names of the streets are numbers, so you can use reference points. I'm at 830 W 834 N, and if you're not dealing with those damned one-way or half streets, you can find anything.
Jesse - Aug 14, 2018 3:35:34 pm PDT #28369 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Charlotte, though!
Amy - Aug 14, 2018 4:13:21 pm PDT #28370 of 30002
Because books.
I'd say Boston! Good lord.
Philly is a lot bigger than Manhattan, though, and it's complicated by the river that literally runs through it. Whereas Manhattan is bordered by the rivers, except to the north, so if you find yourself going over a bridge, you know you fucked up. And I don't include the boroughs in my NYC driving.
I got lost once in Philly for seriously two hours. I think it's also due to the fact that I grew up near NYC, and I just *know* it(well, Manhattan). I have also not really adopted Philly as my local city, although I know I should. My NYC love runs really deep.