We have to see the chimp playing hockey! That's hilarious! The ice is so slippery, and, and monkeys are all irrational. We have to see this!

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


NoiseDesign - Feb 14, 2018 5:15:14 pm PST #22204 of 30002
Our wings are not tired

The gun fetish this country has makes me sick. I'm also in the camp that would be perfectly happy seeing them all gone.


Dana - Feb 14, 2018 5:17:12 pm PST #22205 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Works for me. I'd also be just as happy to punch most members of Congress in the face right now, starting with my own senators, McConnell, and Ryan. Their fucking thoughts and prayers. I can't even believe they can choke out those hypocritical words anymore.


DavidS - Feb 14, 2018 5:20:39 pm PST #22206 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'd also be just as happy to punch most members of Congress in the face right now, starting with my own senators, McConnell, and Ryan.

Let's do that! That would be gratifying!


Amy - Feb 14, 2018 6:17:15 pm PST #22207 of 30002
Because books.

But even more, I want the culture to say NO FUCK YOU THAT IS NOT AN OKAY WAY TO BE PISSED OFF. USE YOUR FUCKING WORDS. OTHER CULTURES HAVE SAID "OH SHIT NO WE CAN'T KEEP GOING DOWN THIS PATH". We keep... not.

I feel like it goes even deeper than that. Like, we have to change an entire mindset that teaches that masculinity is supposed to be aggressive, authoritative, arrogant, and all-knowing.

It's only February, too. The number of people dead by gun violence in this country is already higher THIS YEAR than other countries see in multiple years.


Zenkitty - Feb 14, 2018 6:43:57 pm PST #22208 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I'm so angry and sad and so disgusted with our lawmakers I don't even have words anymore. If what's already happened isn't enough to change things, what will it possibly take?


Steph L. - Feb 14, 2018 6:46:04 pm PST #22209 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

an entire mindset that teaches that masculinity is supposed to be aggressive, authoritative, arrogant, and all-knowing.

And entitled. Oh-so-entitled to everything. To *everyone*. But when men who buy into that model of masculinity don't get what they believe is rightfully owed to them just for being male, then they turn deadly.


Steph L. - Feb 14, 2018 6:47:14 pm PST #22210 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

If what's already happened isn't enough to change things, what will it possibly take?

When nothing happened after Sandy Hook, that was it. If the shooting deaths of children couldn't move Congress to act, nothing ever, ever will.


Beverly - Feb 15, 2018 12:28:00 am PST #22211 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm totally behind taking away all the guns. My motto for the last two years has been "Disarm Law Enforcement." ALL the guns. No cop is going into an iffy neighborhood umarmed without some training and dedication to conflict negotiation, some compassion, and common sense. Give a cop a gun and you take all of that away. Hell, give *anybody* a gun and you take all that away.


Laura - Feb 15, 2018 2:34:15 am PST #22212 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

All the stuff my kid was telling me his friends were telling him ended up being confirmed by news reports. No one was surprised because he was expelled for bringing knives to school. He bragged about his weapons and killing animals all the time. EVERYBODY KNEW this kid was going to end up being a mass murderer and yet he had guns and did it.

And I promise you some of those parents yesterday were all about the "2nd Amendment" and today they aren't. These "gun rights" are absolute bullshit.

Yes, I weep for the families and loved ones, and I weep for all of us.

ION, DH came home from his HS basketball game last night covered in pepper spray because he was restraining a fight participant and got inadvertently sprayed. Teen basketball players fighting, hell no, adults from the stands!!!! I forgot to ask him if they won his game.

The world has gone mad.

eta: he won his game - the men fighting were two huge loudmouths from another game altogether


Dana - Feb 15, 2018 5:02:36 am PST #22213 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, great, Trump's going to "address the nation" at 11AM Eastern. He'll either be a complete asshole or he'll manage to read shit off a teleprompter and people will call him "presidential."