I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.

Simon ,'Safe'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 03, 2017 5:57:05 pm PST #19520 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Someone put a flyer for psychic readings in my car door while I was at the movies today. A real psychic would have known not to waste paper that's just going to go in the trash.


-t - Dec 03, 2017 6:39:47 pm PST #19521 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

She could go to Florida and skip the medium stuff to go the beach, I suppose.


msbelle - Dec 03, 2017 7:01:55 pm PST #19522 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Woohoo my priciest eBay listing (Tiffany necklace) has a bid, so I'll at least get $75 for my trouble today. The necklace was for 5 years with the company. I got it with the plan to resell. Retail on it is $125 so I hope it goes up some, but this really is free money, so anything is good.


Atropa - Dec 03, 2017 9:16:06 pm PST #19523 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I kept trying to think it was more metaphorical, but no. Literally about talking to your dead loved one.

On the one hand, let's face it, I have a lot of beliefs that make my more skeptical friends shake their heads as me. On the other hand, I am deeply suspicious of anyone making money off of being a medium, including organizing conferences that I assume aren't free. Taking money from grief-stricken people in the name of magic and occultism is sleazy.

(I feel like I should include a #NotAllWitches hashtag.)


Gudanov - Dec 04, 2017 3:54:31 am PST #19524 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

So I see this Chuck Grassley quote come up: "I think not having the estate tax recognizes the people that are investing, as opposed to those that are just spending every darn penny they have, whether it's on booze or women or movies."

Now my first thought is that that's probably not a real quote because it just seems like too much. But, no. It's real. What an asshole.


Fred Pete - Dec 04, 2017 3:58:49 am PST #19525 of 30002
Ann, that's a ferret.

I might take Grassley's argument more seriously if the estate tax applied to estates of less than $5.6 million ($11.2 million for married couples).

(Added note: That's the exclusion for 2018. 2017's exclusion is probably a little less.)


Zenkitty - Dec 04, 2017 5:43:50 am PST #19526 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Fuck Chuck Grassley, and not in the fun way.

On the one hand, let's face it, I have a lot of beliefs that make my more skeptical friends shake their heads as me. On the other hand, I am deeply suspicious of anyone making money off of being a medium, including organizing conferences that I assume aren't free. Taking money from grief-stricken people in the name of magic and occultism is sleazy.

^^All of this. I'm "sensitive" to the presence of whatever-ghosts-really-are, I grew up in a haunted house, it's hard not to believe there's something weird "out there". (It's impossible, actually. I've tried.) But the idea that one can simply sit in a circle and join hands and mumble, Dial-A-Medium and call up spirits from the vasty deep is ridiculous. People who use other people's grief and longing to make money are the worst. This is the one reason I never take money or anything of value in exchange for a reading.

One does not simply walk into a seance and talk to a dead person.


Jesse - Dec 04, 2017 5:49:14 am PST #19527 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Come on, you guys -- who among us hasn't spent $10 million on booze, women, and movies???

But the idea that one can simply sit in a circle and join hands and mumble, Dial-A-Medium and call up spirits from the vasty deep is ridiculous.

The idea here, I guess, is that you can learn how to be sensitive or something -- that it's a skill, not a talent. Which, maybe, but my mother is not the person to develop that skill.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 04, 2017 6:03:05 am PST #19528 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, having had a ghostly encounter myself I'm not prepared to pooh-pooh the overall existence of all psychic and spiritual phenomena, but I am deeply skeptical that anyone with gifts in that department is sticking flyers on cars in the Malco parking lot. I'd say if it feels like one of those timeshare seminars it's probably not going to result in any profound metaphysical experiences.


flea - Dec 04, 2017 7:51:06 am PST #19529 of 30002
information libertarian

So, now that I'm in management I learn that we're the sort of workplace where the menagers give a gift to their boss. And it's mandatory to contribute. This fucking job, people. Thank god my actual boss (the department head) is not about this bullshit.