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'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Nov 12, 2016 5:31:48 am PST #1914 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

I dunno, I don't think we know what voters will be buying in four years. I think the important thing is to run someone who can connect with people and get them excited. Trump got fewer votes than Romney and Hillary got far fewer voters than Obama. The big winner was apathy.

As far as the DNC goes, who cares? Obama basically ignored them and ran one of the greatest campaigns in history. The RNC fell off it's skis early on and just got dragged behind the Trump boat the rest of the way.


Jessica - Nov 12, 2016 5:34:24 am PST #1915 of 30002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can only imagine how many people are now walking in those woods!

I hope they're being respectful neighbors!

In between me and the Clintons' house in Chappaqua is the Trump National Golf Club. I can't help but feel it's some kind of horrible metaphor.


Steph L. - Nov 12, 2016 5:41:43 am PST #1916 of 30002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Shit. The jury in the police stop murder trial couldn't come to a unanimous decision after 25 hours of deliberations over 4 days and the judge declared a mistrial.

This is another situation where the officer* was wearing a body cam. It was all recorded. The murder victim was unarmed and nonviolent, sitting in his car.

So now the county prosecutor can file new charges for another trial, or drop the charges. The one good thing about this whole situation is that the county prosecutor has been PISSED about this murder from the day it happened, and I don't think he'll drop the charges.

*(Not a city police officer; a University of Cincinnati officer who stopped Sam Dubose for a broken taillight.)

This is bullshit, and after the election results, I hope there aren't riots. I wouldn't count on it, though.


beth b - Nov 12, 2016 5:57:08 am PST #1917 of 30002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I do not think an outsider for president is a good /rational idea

Has anyone read the Graphic novel Prez: corn dog in cheif

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I know I live in a liberal bubble - but I 'll take it at this moment


msbelle - Nov 12, 2016 5:57:13 am PST #1918 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Cities may be a way to get involved, but state houses need to be turned blue or at least purple. Here in Texas there is an issue even getting enough candidates to run for open county and state positions. So many republicans go unopposed. Red state dem parties need support.

I have this whole fantasy about progressive companies building offices and plants and distribution centers in economically needy old industrial areas and starting some recovery there. Then following that refugee placement agencies focusing on the rural areas close to blue cities.


Susan W. - Nov 12, 2016 6:54:19 am PST #1919 of 30002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Cities may be a way to get involved, but state houses need to be turned blue or at least purple. Here in Texas there is an issue even getting enough candidates to run for open county and state positions. So many republicans go unopposed. Red state dem parties need support.

Yes, this. If I understand correctly, the more state houses Republicans control, the more they can gerrymander and maintain GOP control of Congress despite Democrats actually getting more votes overall. Not to mention that it's state legislatures passing these god-awful voter ID laws and cutting back on early polling places.

Also, we need more Dem governors. If nothing else, a governor can run for president as a "Washington outsider" while still having enough experience to do the job once they get inside...


Zenkitty - Nov 12, 2016 6:54:38 am PST #1920 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

State Department has been increasingly convinced that the key unit of government is the city, not the state

That's how it used to be. Friend of mine says the government needs to hire anthropologists and sociologists and historians.

I joked about running, but I am too much of an insider. And not famous.

Not being famous makes you an outsider! Volans 2020

I actually *want* career politicians. It's not a fucking entry level job.

Why the hell does anyone think it is...

I set up a monthly donation to the ACLU yesterday. I already have monthly donations to Planned Parenthood and Doctors without Borders going.

I have monthly donations going to Doctors Without Borders and Human Rights Watch. I plan to set up donations to PP and ACLU today. Maybe NOW too.

This is another situation where the officer* was wearing a body cam. It was all recorded. The murder victim was unarmed and nonviolent, sitting in his car.

And the jury couldn't come to a conclusion?? wtf I hope the proseutor won't drop the charges!

I have this whole fantasy about progressive companies building offices and plants and distribution centers in economically needy old industrial areas and starting some recovery there. Then following that refugee placement agencies focusing on the rural areas close to blue cities.

That would be wonderful.


Steph L. - Nov 12, 2016 7:01:49 am PST #1921 of 30002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

This is another situation where the officer* was wearing a body cam. It was all recorded. The murder victim was unarmed and nonviolent, sitting in his car.

And the jury couldn't come to a conclusion?? wtf I hope the proseutor won't drop the charges!

The 2 charges the jury had to consider were murder and manslaughter. I'm no attorney, but I don't think it met the requirements for a murder charge. I think it could have met the requirements for manslaughter, but the jury didn't agree.

So when the case is re-tried, the prosecutor can add a different charge, like negligent homicide, which I think is kind of bullshit but way more likely to get a conviction.


Susan W. - Nov 12, 2016 7:03:11 am PST #1922 of 30002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I have monthly donations going to Doctors Without Borders and Human Rights Watch.

Mine are to Doctors Without Borders, Partners in Health, the Seattle Public Library, Northwest Harvest (local hunger relief agency), and DAWN (local agency protecting women and children from domestic abuse). I may add the ACLU, and I'd like to give to a group fighting climate change, but another part of me thinks I need to concentrate my donations a bit more instead of throwing $10 here, $20 there.

I actually *want* career politicians. It's not a fucking entry level job.

THIS. All through this campaign I've been saying it's like if an NFL team wasn't happy with their quarterback, but instead of looking at which QBs were available through free agency or drafting one of the year's best college QBs, they put a tennis player or golfer out on the field. Because CHANGE!


Steph L. - Nov 12, 2016 7:04:41 am PST #1923 of 30002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

THIS. All through this campaign I've been saying it's like if an NFL team wasn't happy with their quarterback, but instead of looking at which QBs were available through free agency or drafting one of the year's best college QBs, they put a tennis player or golfer out on the field. Because CHANGE!

Or when you need a quadruple bypass, instead of the experienced heart surgeon, you get the random dude walking down the hall outside the OR. Because fuck the "medical insiders," am I right?