Angel: Connor, this is Spike and Illyria. Guys, this is Connor. Connor: Hi. umm...I like your outfit. Illyria: Your body warms. This one is lusting after me. Connor: Oh...no, I--I--it's just that it's the outfit. I guess I've had a thing for older women. Angel: They were supposed to fix that.

'Origin'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Oct 26, 2017 4:56:39 pm PDT #18212 of 30002
Because books.

Where do you get a Zombie Frappuccino?!


Kat - Oct 26, 2017 5:25:44 pm PDT #18213 of 30002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I do feel a little weird about the "patting on the rear" thing. Not that George Bush should be doing it to anyone other than possibly Barbara!! But there are times and places where that sort of thing is culturally accepted without asking for and receiving consent (...granted, I'm mostly thinking of sports dudes patting each others' asses, and of gay men and I smacking each others' asses, and pretty much never "dude patting woman's rear who he doesn't know or has any power over"?)

Here's the difference. Did GHWB pat any man on the rear? If it wasn't meant to be a semi-sexual thing, why was only one sex on the receiving end?


-t - Oct 26, 2017 5:29:26 pm PDT #18214 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Starbucks, Amy.


meara - Oct 26, 2017 7:11:29 pm PDT #18215 of 30002

Here's the difference. Did GHWB pat any man on the rear? If it wasn't meant to be a semi-sexual thing, why was only one sex on the receiving end?

Oh yeah, not saying GHWB was in the right, at all. Just extrapolating to a larger/more personal context


Liese S. - Oct 26, 2017 8:29:25 pm PDT #18216 of 30002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, the ass grabbiness in the overly touchy context was definitely multi-gender/alignment.

I dunno, I mean, maybe it's also not ok in my context either, But honestly it's really hard to suss out boundaries in this group, because the vast majority basically seem to have none. They're as likely to end up in a giant puppy pile on someone's bed as they are to shake hands hello.


Zenkitty - Oct 26, 2017 10:00:39 pm PDT #18217 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Thanks, guys.

Personally, I don't want anyone patting my butt under any circumstances. Outside of sports I don't play, there's no reason/excuse for that.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 26, 2017 10:08:03 pm PDT #18218 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Despite not being a touchy-feely person in general, I've felt flattered rather than offended the couple of times that women I don't know have grabbed my ass. However, I don't have to deal with an institutionalized history of being objectified by the opposite sex, which makes a big difference.


Jesse - Oct 27, 2017 7:18:32 am PDT #18219 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There are babies outside my office crying while their dad is having a conversation. It is so hard to keep myself from trying to entertain them! But I am not a babysitter, and you can't actually just park your twins while you have a meeting.


Jesse - Oct 27, 2017 7:21:29 am PDT #18220 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OK, another woman, whose job probably is more related to keeping this dad happy, just picked up one of the babies, and I think he took the other one.

I mean, I like babies, but still!


-t - Oct 27, 2017 7:31:48 am PDT #18221 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Unfortunately, you gotta draw those lines thick and bright.

Got my replacement parking permit and am waiting for toll call in the Jurors Assembly Area. I think we'll be heading to a courtroom next. Whee.