Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - May 17, 2017 11:08:12 am PDT #11590 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My mother at one point counted her antique china (one specific pattern of what's actually earthenware) and realized she had place settings for 32. That's a Victorian place setting - dinner plate, breakfast plate, lunch plate, bread and salad plates, butter pats, coffee cups, tea cups, multiple coffee/tea pots, serving dishes and platters, one complete washstand set (large basin, cold water pitcher, hot water pitcher, tooth mug, case for toothbrush, chamber pot with lid and waste jar) plus assorted other pieces.

Wow, that is impressive.


Gudanov - May 17, 2017 11:13:09 am PDT #11591 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Looks like Sheriff David Clarke is now a deputy secretary at DHS. Sure. Why not. That seems like a great idea.


Calli - May 17, 2017 11:28:03 am PDT #11592 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Living in relatively small apartments for the past 28 years (and having a relatively small discretionary budget for most of that time) has kept the worst of my collecting impulses at bay. Aside from books, there's not a lot that I buy on impulse.

I've very carefully avoided getting a storage unit. Expense aside, that would just end in thousands of books mouldering away, to be discovered—mostly unread by me—by my great-grand nephews and nieces in 2057. "Why did great aunt Calli have an illustrated guide to the lost rivers of London?" "Dude, why wouldn't she?" And then that one, special young adult who is unfortunate enough to take after me would lug thousands of semi-intact books back to zir home, where they'd lie in further unread glory for another 40 years (or until they decayed beyond recovery, which ever comes first).


brenda m - May 17, 2017 11:56:24 am PDT #11593 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

We're all doomed. I mean, good news for Milwaukee County inmates, at least in the short term. But this is really horrific.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 17, 2017 11:57:05 am PDT #11594 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm about to run headfirst into my pseudo-hoarding issue (not that I can't let go of stuff, it's that I never find the time to go through it and discard what's useless or outdated). The plumbing behind my washing machine sprang a leak this week, with the result of water seeping into my bedroom from the closet that shares a wall with the laundry alcove. Luckily most of the paper goods in my closet are in big plastic bins, but I'm going to have to be merciless in throwing away old jeans and knick-knacks to avoid growing a mushroom farm.


brenda m - May 17, 2017 12:16:09 pm PDT #11595 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

(not that I can't let go of stuff, it's that I never find the time to go through it and discard what's useless or outdated).

Ding ding ding! That and I buy too much crap in the first place.


Beverly - May 17, 2017 12:24:37 pm PDT #11596 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

We at one time had *three* storage units. We paid the rental on two of them for more than a decade, because we had no storage at home. Maybe once a year we would pull something out to use, but that's money ill spent--most of that stuff got sold or donated, eventually. And I will perform a spectacular tantrum if renting another is ever suggested.

H has the "this might be useful" thing--but with him, it's true. Still. He's never going to get around to everything he's saved parts and materials for. He's just spent three days (and is far from finished) sorting and storing and arranging the interior of his workshop, after five years of just chucking things inside when he's finished with a project and scrambling to find what he needed for the next project. It had gotten to the point of buying tools he knew he had but either couldn't find or needed immediately--and those were the replacements for tools he'd had for years, buried somewhere in the depths.

It might be beyond hope for him to include "Putting shit away afterward" as *part* of each project, but I'm going to keep suggesting it. Who knows? "It could happen" - Judy Tenuda.

I confess to "collecting" things--pens, inks, single teacup and saucer sets, teapots. But I do use them all, and if I run across something I don't have and want, I weigh how much I want and will use it against the things I already have. I'm gradually divesting my pens, as handwriting is increasingly difficult. And to be honest, "I already have all the pretty teacups." I rarely see anything I like better than the ones I already have.

I've also stopped buying every blank book I covet--in fact I frequently send visitors home with a few from the stockpile I've built over the years, since I'm facing the fact *I'll* never fill them all.

But still, I do have to fight the urge to acquire things I love. I have two chopping blocks, one hard rock maple edge grain, one bamboo, four paddle boards, two of which are marquetry teak, a meat cutting board, mid-century Dansk teak, a slab for cutting or chopping made of exotic woods by a former co-worker, two small oak sandwich boards, and a pig-shaped board made eons ago by StE in shop class.

I'm currently pining because I left a large paddle board with metric conversions engraved on one side, and a smaller paddle board with a gorgeous shape behind in NC for StY to use. And I'm upset that I can find neither my brand new, nor my well-used rock maple bread kneading boards (I think they're in the shop, still packed from the move).

Which is so viciously ironic, because H does all the cooking, and he uses one of two plastic cutting boards, never a wooden one.


-t - May 17, 2017 12:41:51 pm PDT #11597 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Mmm, kneading boards.

I'm not even going to start on my hoarding-esque issues. It is too much. I will say that clutter and crowded rooms do not bother me. I find them obscurely comforting, tbh. Any advice that tells me how much better I will feel if I'm in a tidy environment gets big old eyerolls.


Atropa - May 17, 2017 1:04:01 pm PDT #11598 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

My DH's family is close to hoarding. They "collect." If they like something, they want ALL of it.

This, sadly, is Pete and me. But starting this weekend, I am decluttering one area at a time each weekend. I'm starting small (the corner of the library that is now a graveyard of unfinished projects), but my goal is that by the end of summer, everything of mine has been sorted and culled.

(And you guys, I have been SO good about not adding to my stacks and stacks of vintage gothic romances. There have been so many great covers I've seen from my favorite used bookseller. But no, I have restrained myself.)


bennett - May 17, 2017 1:10:47 pm PDT #11599 of 30002

Sadly, I have a storage shed in my back yard but don't really use it. Anything stored in there but metal or plastic would quickly mold and mildew here in east Texas. I suppose I could raise roaches. I think my predecessors used it for gardening stuff, but I use a mowing service.

If anyone wants to come to Bryan, Texas, disassemble it and haul it away, that would be fine by me.