t me. I literally have a hard time figuring out what is a sign of depression in me and what is just my usual disinclination to do anything.

Yep yep yep. I mean, I feel like even with no commute and no kids, I barely get shit done and instead spend too much time reading or on the internet. But at my dad's 70th birthday party some relatives were talking about some genetic predisposition to something (hearing loss with aging or something) and came around to "well, [our last name] are lazy. Smart but lazy". So apparently its familial, to use the smarts to be more lazy!

I have seen un-rinsed dishes go in and come out clean, but I just can't do it.

Since I haven't lived full-time with a dishwasher since 1996, I am looking forward to the apparent golden age of automation we now live in, where dishwashers can get shit clean without the need to clean everything by hand first. I don't fully believe in it yet, but I'm willing to try. (Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleasekitchenrenovationpeoplestartandendonschedulepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease)

I think the slacker thing comes from the Puritans. If you don't have busy work to do, then you ahve time to think, and if you have time to think you have time to question.

Dishwasher, yay!

My wife just suggested I should take a few days off work to specially not be productive.

That sounds like an excellent idea. You do a lot!

I literally have a hard time figuring out what is a sign of depression in me and what is just my usual disinclination to do anything.

Oh, hello voice inside my head, how did you get into Dana's post?

In two months, I will have a dishwasher installed for the first time in my adult life and I cannot WAIT.

Jealous!

I always do somethings on the weekend to go toward improving the house, but I never quite get it to clean.

I seem to be willing to vacuum and dust much more to see if helps my poor cat's allergies than I am for my own peace of mind. Ironically, I'd say 60% of the dust is cat hair.

Dana, that is me too. Some of that was better on ADHD meds, which I should look into again now that I'm not pregnant or breast feeding and don't plan on becoming pregnant again.

I do not pre-rinse by dishes. I use the most hardcore dishwasher tabs I can afford whose packaging promises they will clean everything with no effort from me, and anything that is not clean at the end of the cycle stays in to be washed in the next round. It works pretty well. And what I think will be a problem (say, baked on grease) and what actually turns out to be (a thimbleful of coffee that evaporated overnight apparently permanently bonding the brown-ness to the inside of the cup) rarely coincide.

I am in a meeting and disliking it so much. My manager and coworker will cheerfully discuss things to the end of eternity.

Aside from a brief 2 years of grad school, I have never lived in a place that had a dishwasher. If we ever get that kitchen remodel accomplished, we'll get one.

I am new to dishwashers myself. I rinse and scrape off the worst of the food, because it's an older dishwaser, and my only complaint is the hard water spots. Everything comes out acceptably clean.