And naturally, it's not gaining any traction like it did with Nate Parker. It's like there's an obvious difference between the two of them...but I'm sure the world is color-blind.

Well that, but I'd also argue the cases are very different. And a huge difference is that Parker is the writer/director of a film where rape was made central to the plot of a historical event despite lack of historical evidence. Not defending either man and don't intend to support either film, but I think comparing the two situations directly is apples and oranges.

Yeah, I don't mean to say they're identical. It's just part of a larger trend that's been building for a while, including in SF/F writing, where POC who get called out for something get treated differently than white guys who do a similar thing.

I'm also interested in the old news about Last Tango in Paris that people are suddenly shocked about?

Surfaced more broadly, climate right for people not to just sort of shrug it off.

Slate had a good article about The Last Tango in Paris and why there has been a spike in talk about it in social media lately: [link]

Never saw Last Tango. I think the only Bertolucci films I watched were Stealing Beauty and Besieged. They are beautiful-looking films but I vaguely remember feeling uncomfortable about the way he shot his lead actresses (young Liv Tyler and Thandie Newton, respectively). I mean, gorgeous actresses looking gorgeous, fine, but there was something weirdly fetishistic about way the camera moved over their bodies. t retroactively icked out

Besieged is one of those films I thought was madly romantic when I watched it 20 years ago and now am vaguely horrified by.

Yeah, Stealing Beauty had a very strong lead-character-as-object-of-male-gaze vibe going on. I have no objection to women being sexual in movies, but I like them to have agency regarding it rather than just passively serve as something pretty for other characters to drool over. More Annie Savoy, less Honey Rider, please.

I have never understood the appeal of Last Tango. If I could scrub it from my brain I would.

I have never understood the appeal of Last Tango. If I could scrub it from my brain I would.

I could never understand why it is considered a 'classic' so I watched it, expecting to be impressed by some part of it. Instead, there appears to not be enough brain bleach in the world.

Glad to have confirmation that my decision never to see it was the right one.

Go with that. Stick with that.