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Amy - Dec 28, 2019 10:42:27 am PST #2411 of 3432
Because books.

I always liked Amy! You could so clearly see her grow up. And I loved her and Laurie together, which is apparently a very unpopular opinion. I could never see Jo loving him like that. Or being that kind of wife.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 28, 2019 11:12:16 am PST #2412 of 3432
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Professor Bhaer is right for Jo, I think. He is also fortunately named, so he seems like a Teddy Bear. And he can be loving and kind and calm, which is what she needs. And Jo can still be BFFS with Laurie. Jo is right- they are both too alike and too different to work romantically. They both need grounding, and left together, she would be the one to ground him or they would both kill each other. Amy grounds him just by being and letting him love and indulge her while she loves and indulges him.

Again, I recommend The Old Fashioned Girl for what people wanted Jo and Laurie to be.

Also, I was so young and naive the first time I read this that I thought Laurie was also a girl.


amyparker - Dec 28, 2019 11:24:44 am PST #2413 of 3432
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

That Gerwig has Amy come right out and tell Laurie "You only courting me after my sister turned you down? You are really not in a position to be chucking asparagus at ME about how unromantic this all is" made me think about spiking my popcorn bucket in delight.

The subtext of "I don't have a lot of choices - if I'm going to essentially give up my status as a separate legal entity, why the hell shouldn't I be well compensated for that?" being made text is apparently putting a lot of people off? And I'm going "That was and still is the choice for far too many folks on this planet? They did come to love one another, which, yay!"


DavidS - Dec 28, 2019 3:09:16 pm PST #2414 of 3432
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The subtext of "I don't have a lot of choices - if I'm going to essentially give up my status as a separate legal entity, why the hell shouldn't I be well compensated for that?"

Or as Peggy Carter says it in a different context, "I know my worth."


Vonnie K - Dec 28, 2019 4:16:03 pm PST #2415 of 3432
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

The subtext of "I don't have a lot of choices - if I'm going to essentially give up my status as a separate legal entity, why the hell shouldn't I be well compensated for that?" being made text is apparently putting a lot of people off?

Wha?? That was one of my favourite bits in the entire movie! The movie is practically centered around the two big Fuck the Patriarchy speeches, one given by Amy here, and one later given by Jo -- I loved the contrast between Jo's passionate heartbreak and Amy's flinty anger and practicality, each a railing against the limitation put upon by the world that considered women second class citizens.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 28, 2019 5:05:01 pm PST #2416 of 3432
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I apparently have a lot of opinions about a movie I haven't seen, but people being upset by that shocks me. Surely they haven't read the book as an adult. That is pretty much there in the text, it just sounds like the movie gives it voice.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 28, 2019 5:07:17 pm PST #2417 of 3432
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And Amy, even with the pickled limes, understands the current social conditions and how to navigate them to her advantage, always. Which seems to escape the rest of the family.


amyparker - Dec 28, 2019 5:13:26 pm PST #2418 of 3432
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

Right? "It's not romantic!" Given the choices available? Well, no. "Meg didn't marry well, Jo won't, Beth can't - so I will." Gerwig showing what that line meant is possibly more reality than some were expecting from a movie marketed like this one, especially if they haven't read the unabridged book.


amyparker - Dec 28, 2019 7:21:14 pm PST #2419 of 3432
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

Sophia, I think a lot of people only know it from the films and have never read the book. I know, I'm shaking my head, too.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 28, 2019 8:59:07 pm PST #2420 of 3432
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Louisa May Alcott is in my top three authors (with Charlotte Bronte and John Irving). This adaptation sounds really good and true. I know she wrote children's books, but they had some really good, and subversive, messages. I read them almost every year, so, I can't imagine.