Wash: Don't fall asleep now. Sleepiness is weakness of character. Ask anyone. You're acting captain. Know what happens you fall asleep now? Zoe: Jayne slits my throat, and takes over. Wash: That's right. Zoe: And we can't stop it.

'Shindig'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Oct 19, 2015 6:17:59 pm PDT #7356 of 30003
brillig

I wasn't aware of the strong religious overtones in veganism. Definite strains of heresy and apostasy wandering around.


Lee - Oct 19, 2015 6:19:55 pm PDT #7357 of 30003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I would vote for watching Jane the Virgin from the start. There are a lot of fun little moments that also pay off later.


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2015 6:25:46 pm PDT #7358 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

strong religious overtones in veganism.

This just took me to a Monty Python "This is HIS GOURD! We will carry it for you, Master!" place.


meara - Oct 19, 2015 6:26:44 pm PDT #7359 of 30003

I totally vote for both jumping in AND going back and catching up on Jane the Virgin. It's awesome.

And I too have wondered about fetal alcohol syndrome in places where everybody drank wine or cider or beer all the time. Except the studies I've seen say that even women who admitted drinking like, five drinks a day still only had a fairly small change of getting FAS (I mean, iirc it was double digit but much less than 50?)


Hil R. - Oct 19, 2015 6:28:21 pm PDT #7360 of 30003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I wasn't aware of the strong religious overtones in veganism. Definite strains of heresy and apostasy wandering around.

It's gotten a lot worse in the past few years. There have been a whole bunch of books and websites and stuff about how veganism will cure all sorts of diseases, and will make you totally healthy, and they tend to equate veganism with no processed food, no sugar, etc. I'm in a facebook group called What Fat Vegans Eat, and that name was chosen specifically to ward off people like that, and still, any time someone posts something about vegan junk food, there will be a bunch of "Veganism is about being healthy, so that cupcake isn't REALLY vegan" replies.


Zenkitty - Oct 19, 2015 7:01:40 pm PDT #7361 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I suspect, based on very little knowledge, that women got fewer UTIs and vaginal infections in the before times because they didn't wear pants or underwear. No cloth right against the warm moist bits means less opportunity for bacteria/fungi to grow.


-t - Oct 19, 2015 7:04:33 pm PDT #7362 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I predict that jumping directly into Jane the Virgin woul (a) be fine [eta: the Narrator will say "there, now you're all caught up" so you'll know you have what you need] and (b) make you want to start at the beginning and see it all.

I have thoughts about medieval incidence of fetal alcohol syndrome but I can't get them into communicable form.


Theodosia - Oct 20, 2015 12:33:42 am PDT #7363 of 30003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Even with the possibility of FAS, it was almost certainly healthier to drink mildly alcoholic beverages in the Olden Tymes because even a small amount of alcohol helps kill bad germs. Juices don't keep, so you brewed hard cider, tossing in the wormy apples because alcohol.

I expect that most of the beer etc was in the low-proof area. It wasn't until the innovation of distilling, which for instance brought The Sorrows of Gin, that you had really obvious alcoholics in the public eye/mind.


flea - Oct 20, 2015 1:34:16 am PDT #7364 of 30003
information libertarian

"Small beer" is the historical term - as low as 1% alcohol.

Classic FAS is associated with 4 drinks (modern definition - 1 beer, 1 glass of wine, etc.) per day.


Calli - Oct 20, 2015 1:45:07 am PDT #7365 of 30003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Also, a lot of babies died in the Middle Ages, so there's a solid chance that an infant with FAS wouldn't survive--not necessarily due to FAS, but also due to plague, famine, war, untreated upper respiratory infections, etc. Royalty lost numerous kids. Some decades peasants were lucky to keep the population levels steady.