I'm just trying to tell you that we have nothing in common besides both of us liking your penis.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Sep 28, 2015 1:51:08 pm PDT #6157 of 30003
information libertarian

You all are the right audience for this: I showed the kids Underoos, and Casper wants The Flash Underoos. Unfortunately they only come in Men's, and a Men's small is still waaaaay too big for her (she could get away with a Women's small.)

Did I confess here that I am tempted to buy my brother and his fiancee He-Man and She-Ra Underoos as a wedding present? It would be wrong, I think. But I really want to.


Steph L. - Sep 28, 2015 1:57:52 pm PDT #6158 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

But I really want to.

Dooooo eeeeeeet.

I showed the kids Underoos, and Casper wants The Flash Underoos.

I totally want Captain America underoos.


-t - Sep 28, 2015 1:59:30 pm PDT #6159 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That would be a great wedding present, flea!


-t - Sep 28, 2015 2:05:01 pm PDT #6160 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Listened to the link and I still don't know what she's complaining about.


msbelle - Sep 28, 2015 2:10:21 pm PDT #6161 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

ok that example of vocal fry also has it over like a valley girl or clench jaw speaking pattern which is certainly one example (an extreme and exaggerated one, I would argue), but that is not at all what the lady on with Terri Gross sounded like and also not the only way vocal fry is heard. [link]

I jumped to 12:25 and it is very clear to me. It's a vibration/growliness of vocalizing down in the throat. I think people do it sometimes when they are speaking in a non-casual manner, like publically or to a group of new people or an important situation, when you become overly aware. I have a couple of friends who do a kind of lisp thing that is similar when they are speaking TO something with authority, telling a story/making a point or when the attention has turned to them by a group.

I am sure I do something like that and you should all hit me with large objects when I do.


flea - Sep 28, 2015 2:18:26 pm PDT #6162 of 30003
information libertarian

Were He-Man and She-Ra a couple? Also a problem, my brother was WAY into He-Man (as a 4 year old) but his fiancee is 8 years younger than he is, so maybe she wouldn't get it and think I'm weird? Then again, she probably thinks I'm weird anyway, so.


-t - Sep 28, 2015 2:24:34 pm PDT #6163 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, yeah, no, I think they were siblings. So maybe wrong. But Princess of Power, right?

I was listening to that story coming back from the dentist, msbelle. I don't know, I think that vocal fry stuff just doesn't ping me as anything other than different people sound different when they talk. There are certainly people whose voices annoy me, but not because of that quality, I guess.


flea - Sep 28, 2015 2:35:29 pm PDT #6164 of 30003
information libertarian

I could do Skeletor and She-Ra. But somehow that feels kinky. You see my dilemmas, here.


aurelia - Sep 28, 2015 2:44:31 pm PDT #6165 of 30003
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Vocal Fry example: [link]

that is not at all what the lady on with Terri Gross sounded like and also not the only way vocal fry is heard. [link]

I think these two samples demonstrate (for me at least) that it isn't the fry but the Paris Hilton affectation that irritates. I do know a couple of people (one man, one woman) whose vocal inflections never leave fry territory and that can be hard to listen to, but most people just dip in and out of it.

The Batman/Cookie Monster voice has more breath support behind it. I think of fry as being more creaky than growly.

I tried to leave work early today because I feel like crap and the woman in the business office refused to sell me a parking pass until 3:00. I thought about sitting in the office coughing until then.


Steph L. - Sep 28, 2015 2:46:46 pm PDT #6166 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I think of fry as being more creaky than growly.

Yeah, I think of vocal fry as being the croak sound at the end (but sometimes middle) of words. It doesn't really irritate me.

it isn't the fry but the Paris Hilton affectation that irritates.

Yeah, that needs to DIAF.