Reynolds, I'm a dangerous-minded man on a ship loaded with hurt. Now, why you got me chatting with your peons?

Womack ,'The Message'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sj - Sep 08, 2015 8:59:52 am PDT #4980 of 30003
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Indian food in England is a whole other cuisine and so damn good! Enjoy it, Consuela

What Burrell said. We got tired of pub food after a while too, although the meat pies were quite good, there is only so much of that we could eat.


-t - Sep 08, 2015 9:15:34 am PDT #4981 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I have had enough of today.

ETAdetail: it's been like a Monday turned up to 11, which does not seem fair when I worked yesterday. But everyone who didn't is coming with their questions they couldn't ask over the weekend and it is too much.


Connie Neil - Sep 08, 2015 9:16:49 am PDT #4982 of 30003
brillig

The Utah State Fair is coming up. I love fairs, but going without Hubby is painful. I'm debating whether I'm up to going by myself this year, or I'll need to wait another year. I should drop comments among the people I do like around here to see their opinions about state fairs. I'm sure someone would be willing to go if I asked, but I don't want to drag someone around who's primarily doing it to be nice to the widow. I want someone who can stand in the animal barns and make lewd jokes about livestock.


-t - Sep 08, 2015 9:53:21 am PDT #4983 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

On the plus side, I got a really nice charred flavor on my steak by searing it in a cast iron pan. Unfortunately, I forgot to put any oil and vinegar on my lettuce so my lunch is less than perfect.


beth b - Sep 08, 2015 10:14:02 am PDT #4984 of 30003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

So sorry Gud, it is a bad place to be, but you will get to the other side


javachik - Sep 08, 2015 10:18:49 am PDT #4985 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

I'm with Brenda entirely on the salary issue - at least when it comes to specific info on specific people. However if I am making moves to another company (or industry) the info available on glassdoor.com and other similar sites is crucial.


lisah - Sep 08, 2015 10:25:18 am PDT #4986 of 30003
Punishingly Intricate

Yeah glassdoor.com can be helpful in figuring salary ranges for a company but only if people are willing to disclose. I always go to enter info and then chicken out because my job is so niche it would be easy to tell exactly what my salary is

My job isn't niche but I also didn't feel comfortable putting salary info in glassdoor. I think just because salary disclosure is such a weird thing here (in this country, I mean). I should go in there now and post it, though, since I've left the company!

Now that I've been looking for a job it's interesting what kind of salary information different places reveal in their listings. Mostly it's just a generic "commensurate with qualifications" but some places give very specific salary range info, Hopkins, for example, which is a huge employer here.

If I ever get to the salary negotiation point (it could happen!), it's going to be weird for me because, for the most part, I'm looking at jobs that will likely pay way less than I was making at my job before I left. I'm looking at moving to the non-profit sector and there is just no way the salary will be comparable. Which I'm totally fine with; I wouldn't be looking at those jobs if that wasn't the case.


Jesse - Sep 08, 2015 10:29:30 am PDT #4987 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I just did a 5 minute phone screen with a guy who is making way more than we can offer for the job he applied for, and that's nonprofit to nonprofit. BUT if I got the real promotion, there might be a job he'd be more interested in. I guess I can't mention that, just have to confirm that we can't do better than what I said on the phone.

If I ever get to the salary negotiation point (it could happen!), it's going to be weird for me because, for the most part, I'm looking at jobs that will likely pay way less than I was making at my job before I left. I'm looking at moving to the non-profit sector and there is just no way the salary will be comparable. Which I'm totally fine with; I wouldn't be looking at those jobs if that wasn't the case.

If you're filling out online applications that require past salaries, I'd just be sure to say in your cover letter that you know salary ranges differ between sectors. Or something else that doesn't either (a) undersell yourself up front or (b) make them think you need to match your past salary.


lisah - Sep 08, 2015 10:33:21 am PDT #4988 of 30003
Punishingly Intricate

If you're filling out online applications that require past salaries, I'd just be sure to say in your cover letter that you know salary ranges differ between sectors. Or something else that doesn't either (a) undersell yourself up front or (b) make them think you need to match your past salary.

Thanks, Jesse! That totally makes sense. I've been meaning to ask you for job search advice!


-t - Sep 08, 2015 10:53:49 am PDT #4989 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

When one of the guys in our group moved to a different group he told us he got a 20% bump in salary. And, you know, glad for him, but kinda resentful that this other group apparently just makes more than us as a matter of course. It's not obvious as to why that should be.