You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.

Xander ,'Help'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Aug 05, 2016 10:36:22 am PDT #25664 of 30003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

My mom worked for pay before having kids and after my sister and I went to kindergarten. Dad's mom had worked for pay, too, as a teacher (as his teacher for a while--one room schoolhouse and all that), so I don't think he ever questioned that that would be a reasonable option.

In kinda cool (to me) news, I was poking around online and found the yearbook where my grandmother was listed at the "normal" school where she received her teaching degree in 1914. I wish the scanned images were better, so I could try to recognize her in the photos.


Toddson - Aug 05, 2016 11:01:27 am PDT #25665 of 30003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

My mother worked part time through college and got a full-time job after graduating. She fought to keep that job even after getting married, but was forced to quit when she got pregnant (with me). Had my sister four years later, went to work part time when I was seven, then went to work full time when I was 14 or so. My father would periodically declare, "no wife of mine is going to work!" ... but she hated staying at home and kept working.

Elizabeth Warren and ... her daughter, I think ... wrote a book about the Two-Income Trap - about how in earlier years, when things got tight financially, a stay-at-home mother/wife could get a job to get through, but now just to stay afloat it requires two people working full time.


Zenkitty - Aug 05, 2016 12:04:07 pm PDT #25666 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

a book about the Two-Income Trap

I read that; it's a very different take on the two-income family than I was used to, but she made a darn good case *economically* for having one parent stay home with the kids, and how it's been bad for American economic health that that's no longer possible for most families. That is, hard economic times made it impossible, and the fact that it was impossible made the hard times worse.

My mom worked her whole life; when my sister was little mom had a salon in the garage, and when I was little mom was doing seamstress work in the basement, until she got an admin job at RCA. Later she worked at a shirt factory, then she got her accountant certification and got a job at TRW, from which she retired. It never occurred to me that I should not work. The whole idea that women couldn't or shouldn't do anything just passed me by; it was a bizarre foreign concept to me when I realized people really believed women couldn't work.


Connie Neil - Aug 05, 2016 12:40:03 pm PDT #25667 of 30003
brillig

To her credit, Mother never insinuated that I and my sisters were going to do anything but go to college and get educated in something useful. She even pushed me towards those new computer things (I wish I remembered if she pushed computers at my sisters, I was such a self-absorbed child that I ignored most everything). As we said at her funeral, we wished she could have appreciated that we grew up to be the strong, independent women she taught us to be.


Connie Neil - Aug 05, 2016 1:24:35 pm PDT #25668 of 30003
brillig

So apparently there's a Pokémon gym in my company's parking garage, but it's "owned" by Team Valor. Does that mean the other team isn't allowed to use it? Are there going to nerdgangs having dance battles in the parking garage as they fight for access to Pokémon?


Dana - Aug 05, 2016 2:04:41 pm PDT #25669 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm already preparing to be irritated by NBC's tape-delayed Olympics. They're not even running the opening ceremonies live.


Calli - Aug 05, 2016 2:24:09 pm PDT #25670 of 30003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Other teams can take over the gym, Connie. Their Pokémon fight the ones at the gym. If the attackers win often enough to lower the gym's prestige points, they can claim the gym for their team.


Consuela - Aug 05, 2016 2:32:12 pm PDT #25671 of 30003
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My mom tried to go to college but dropped out after one semester. This was apparently so shameful that I never learned about it until after she died (!). She then went to nursing school, and at least one of the jobs she got after graduating was as an emergency-room OB nurse. This was in NYC in the 1950s, so as a result she saw a lot of women coming in after back-alley abortions. She was a lifelong Catholic, but she was pro-choice her entire adult life, because she'd seen the damage.

She worked until she got married, and then had five kids, and went back to work again in her late 30s, over a decade later. It must have been hard for her to to study up for the exams again, in a different state. So she worked until she was about 63, spending 20 years at a state hospital for people with profound mental and physical disabilities. And then quit when my sister had her second kid -- only five months before her pension would have vested!

There was never any question that my sister & I would be expected to work for a living, and Mom's income was very welcome in the household -- it basically paid for the summer house we had on a lake. But she didn't set much aside for her retirement, and when they retired, they were dependent mostly on Dad's money. Happily, he had a good pension, a good IRA, and had invested well.


Tom Scola - Aug 05, 2016 3:15:49 pm PDT #25672 of 30003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Not really watching, but already 600% more classy than London's.


meara - Aug 05, 2016 4:12:50 pm PDT #25673 of 30003

Olympics. They're not even running the opening ceremonies live.

And extra annoyed here on the west coast where they are further tape delaying! But I'm going to watch anyway

My mom was a teacher before I was born. I'm not sure if they would have let her kept teaching, back then, even if she wanted to? But when I was a bit older she ran a daycare in our house. And then when my brother was in school, she went back to grad school, to become a speech pathologist.