Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


WindSparrow - Aug 05, 2016 5:53:13 am PDT #25649 of 30003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Evulotion is a good thing! You did it, Hillary did it, Obama did it: there's just a lot of baggage that was there that had to be gone through!

Like oh em gee elected officials who can be persuaded to listen to people's wants and needs!


Toddson - Aug 05, 2016 6:16:24 am PDT #25650 of 30003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

hmm ... it's almost like the "but we've ALWAYS done it that way" you get in business

For coverage, may I also recommend Charles P. Pierce on Esquire? he brings the snark and a good deal of intelligent comments ... at least, intelligent to me (lefty that I am).

And Elizabeth Warren, asked why Wall Street is now more for Hillary than Trump, commented, Nuclear war is bad for business.


Burrell - Aug 05, 2016 6:22:11 am PDT #25651 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Yeah WTH is up with NPR? Yesterday on Which Way, LA? they were discussing the point that many people believe, for religious or 'other' reasons, that women should never be allowed to hold a leadership position over men. And I'm listening to this and neither the host nor the 'experts' are calling out such beliefs as sexist, even when one position presented as 'reasonable' starts with "I'm not sexist but..."

What is wrong with respectfully calling out such beliefs as sexist? Arrgh!


Laura - Aug 05, 2016 6:27:47 am PDT #25652 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

extending the right far too much courtesy, and never really challenging the wrongness and the lying.

Exactly with almost all the media. It is infuriating. THIS is what gave us Donald Trump as a 'serious' candidate for president.

20 years ago, marriage was a pipe dream. 10 years ago, civil unions seemed like an acceptable option.

I do give public figures of a certain age somewhat a pass on the evolution, because I have seen it with friends and family. It was a significant change of accepted norms. Within a block of my house as a kid were 2 separate same sex couple households, so between that and my parents non-bigoted natures it was always normal for me. That isn't the case with all people of my age. The turn around has been really more rapid than anticipated, which of course a wonderful thing. My children will tell stories to my grandchildren about the days when same sex marriage was illegal and they will find it ridiculous.


Toddson - Aug 05, 2016 6:41:24 am PDT #25653 of 30003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I think the media takes the "balanced reporting" thing too far - someone comes on and makes statements that are wrong, or not in tune with current thinking (as in the position of women in leadership roles) and they're given the same, shall we say respect, as someone else with either facts or more current positions. And you know, I'm old enough to remember when newspaper help wanted ads were divided with different listings for men and women.


-t - Aug 05, 2016 6:50:12 am PDT #25654 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Jeez, this morning. I happened to glance at my work email before I came in, which was good because my wine got delivered and I found out in time to drive rather than take the bus. So I got here and immediately headed around the building to the loading dock, got to the spot where you're supposed to swipe your badge to get past the arm thingy and realize I don't have my badge. Look in my purse, look in my lunch bag, not there, turn around and go home to look for it. It only takes a few minutes to get home, so this is fine. I get home and dash inside to grab the badge - it's not where it's supposed to be. I stand inside the door staring around blankly trying to think where it could possibly be, I know I came directly home yesterday so there's no reason for it to be anywhere unusual, I try to think back to coming home yesterday and imagine taking off my badge, bring up my hand to my neck, and I've been wearing the damn thing THE WHOLE TIME.

So, anyway, back to work, pick up my wine, deliver the empty box and packing materials I promised my coworkers, turn on my computer, get ready to put my lunch in the fridge and get my coffee but before I can do those vital tasks the fire alarm goes off.

No fire, apparently, we are all back inside and I now have coffee, but actually getting into work mode is a challenge.


Laura - Aug 05, 2016 6:54:16 am PDT #25655 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

OMG, Todd! I had totally forgotten about the Help Wanted Men/Women breakdown. You are correct. What we take for granted has changed a lot.

My mother born in 1921 and married in 1944 never worked for pay after the boys came home after WWII. When the 4 kids all were finished school she figured she would get a job. Never crossed her mind it would be an issue. My dad had a fit! He said she would shame him to his friends because he wasn't providing for his family or some such. My mom and sibs were shocked at his attitude, but it was not going to be changed, and never was. She still threatens to go get a job, but since she doesn't drive anymore we don't take her seriously.


Laura - Aug 05, 2016 6:55:47 am PDT #25656 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

May the rest of your day be calm and uneventful,-t.


Fred Pete - Aug 05, 2016 7:48:59 am PDT #25657 of 30003
Ann, that's a ferret.

My mother went back to work for pay once both kids were in school all day in 1970. She was part-time for quite a while, and staying home to take care of the kids was a given. The matter was given to us kids as mom not being alone in the house all day every day, and, well, the extra income can buy some extras for the family.

Not an issue that I was aware of -- on the other hand, I was about 8, and my parents were fairly big on don't-tell-the-children.


WindSparrow - Aug 05, 2016 8:26:29 am PDT #25658 of 30003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Oh! ms belle, did you still want poetry things tweeted?