You turned evil a lot faster than I thought you would.

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Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Jul 07, 2016 4:22:40 am PDT #24157 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

That poor guy in Minnesota, I can't even fathom what his family must be going through.

Jesus, another one?

I was thinking this morning on the drive to work. If you accept that blacks (or even black men) are killed by police at a disproportionately high rate, then there are two explanations. Either black people behave in a way that pose a real threat to police and cause these fatal shootings, or the police are more likely to use force, including fatal force, against black people.

Which seems obvious, but I cannot believe how many people come to the first conclusion. It's nauseating.


Steph L. - Jul 07, 2016 4:53:21 am PDT #24158 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Jesus, the news is just awful. That poor guy in Minnesota, I can't even fathom what his family must be going through.

I read this post and was so confused, because I thought "Wait, wasn't that in Baton Rouge?" But no, it's a whole separate other incidence of LEOs murdering a black man.

I'm really beginning to think seriously about just never calling the cops now. I don't want someone to get shot because I'm bothered by property crime...

Seriously, we call the cops whenever we see a drug deal going down, but I don't want the dealers to get killed; I just want them to be arrested.

And every time LEOs kill a black person, I realize all over again how unbelievably privileged I am, because interacting with the police doesn't faze me. Our next-door neighbor is a black woman with 2 kids, and I have seen those kids stop playing and go inside when a police cruiser drives down the street. Our houses are separated by a driveway, but in this case, it might as well be a separate country, and it makes me sick.


WindSparrow - Jul 07, 2016 5:16:18 am PDT #24159 of 30003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

WTF kind of training are these cops getting that they shoot people when they are trying to follow instructions and reach for their ID? Why do tazers and handcuffs and tackling come before talking? How do we begin to fix this?

Unfortunately that is precisely the training they receive. There's a "psychologist" going around teaching them to do exactly that [link] They should use deadly force if they feel threatened, and unfortunately people of color seem significantly more threatening and less innocent to our whole society. This plays out in preschoolers getting suspended for acting like children and in adults getting killed for complying with police orders. Look at how the media portray POC who have been killed by police... the "s/he was no angel" storyline.


Sparky1 - Jul 07, 2016 5:50:06 am PDT #24160 of 30003
Librarian Warlord

Ugh, news.

Yesterday I got an email message for someone with my same name from her mother. I replied that she had the wrong person, and that her (highly personal) email hadn't reached her daughter as intended. This morning, the mother wrote me back that she absolutely had the correct address and I should stop this right now because she was my mother. Nope.


Steph L. - Jul 07, 2016 5:56:27 am PDT #24161 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

This morning, the mother wrote me back that she absolutely had the correct address and I should stop this right now because she was my mother.

Ahahahahaha! I can see my mom doing that, because she would totally believe that kind of response would actually be me trying to be a smartass.


Dana - Jul 07, 2016 6:08:45 am PDT #24162 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Husband just got a call for a job not only in this area, but in the specific suburb we live in. I told him that if he ends up getting a job 10 minutes away, after all of this, I might snap.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 07, 2016 6:11:34 am PDT #24163 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Man, my reply would get Not!Sparky the cold shoulder at family gatherings for years to come.


Jesse - Jul 07, 2016 6:14:42 am PDT #24164 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Speaking of privilege, my non-white, non-citizen coworker said to me the other day, "Aren't you always nervous to talk to immigration?" Yeah, no.

This morning, the mother wrote me back that she absolutely had the correct address and I should stop this right now because she was my mother. Nope.

Ha! Classic mother.

Husband just got a call for a job not only in this area, but in the specific suburb we live in. I told him that if he ends up getting a job 10 minutes away, after all of this, I might snap.

But at least you wouldn't have to move?


shrift - Jul 07, 2016 6:18:16 am PDT #24165 of 30003
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

But at least you wouldn't have to move?

But then Dana wouldn't be able to quit working for The Man.


Dana - Jul 07, 2016 6:18:17 am PDT #24166 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

But at least you wouldn't have to move?

I know. But it's a bit like the universe going "Ha-ha, all that stuff you were freaked out about? Never mind! Psych!"

But then Dana wouldn't be able to quit working for The Man.

But if he has benefits again, I could seriously job-search.