This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - Jun 29, 2016 5:22:38 am PDT #23819 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Dana, I'm in the I hate everyone boat with you. We'll hate together, it'll be cozy and warm from the fire of our hate.

Steph, I KNOW, good god. I was calm, I said, ask the author for another copy and from now on keep the original and work on a copy, and she agreed, but man. She's been doing this for years, long before I took over this journal. I had NO IDEA this was happening. It never occurred to me that I'd have to tell anyone not to destroy the original. Idiot. Thank Bosco I found this out in a relatively harmless way before she did any real damage.


Zenkitty - Jun 29, 2016 5:25:38 am PDT #23820 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

But she still has a copy of the submission in e-mail, right? Or she is tracking changes she can see what the original was, right?

NO. We get the submissions through a 3rd party service (called ScholarOne). AFAIK S1 doesn't hold on to copies of anything that passes through its mighty halls. And apparently she wasn't tracking changes. She just blithely rewrites the original submission. I just... can't even.


Gudanov - Jun 29, 2016 5:28:21 am PDT #23821 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Wow. In the software development world, the idea of not being able to go back to the previous version of a file just doesn't compute.


msbelle - Jun 29, 2016 5:29:13 am PDT #23822 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Sits with Dana.

My goal today is to interact as little as possible. I may set a record this week on completed paperwork.


Calli - Jun 29, 2016 5:34:41 am PDT #23823 of 30003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

She's been editing the submissions and not keeping a copy of the originals.

That is completely ridiculous and utterly unprofessional.

I don't hate everyone today because roughly half of everyone is out of the office. And the others are either very quiet or sending me the thing I've asked for. Good office. *pets it gently* Biscuit!

Actually, it's a little unnerving. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.


Steph L. - Jun 29, 2016 5:35:38 am PDT #23824 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

We get the submissions through a 3rd party service (called ScholarOne). AFAIK S1 doesn't hold on to copies of anything that passes through its mighty halls. And apparently she wasn't tracking changes.

I'm actually freaking out internally at this. Even though the AMA keeps copies of every single draft, the very first thing I do when I download an article to edit is to make a copy so that I have a clean, pre-edited copy in case I need to refer to it. (Although I also track all my changes except bullshit ones like removing a hard return or changing a spelled-out number to a numeral.)

She just blithely rewrites the original submission.

I am astounded at this. WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL.


shrift - Jun 29, 2016 5:38:47 am PDT #23825 of 30003
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I also hate everyone this morning.

Perhaps especially people who don't understand the concept of a version control system.


Steph L. - Jun 29, 2016 5:41:27 am PDT #23826 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I don't hate everyone, but one of my authors is getting on my last nerve. Actual question: "We need to add an acknowledgement to Dr. So-and-so, who provided the consent form. Actually, can we add her as an author?" SERIOUSLY? You want to add someone as an author at this stage of the process? Also, the requirements for authorship involve more than just providing a goddamn form WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 29, 2016 5:44:33 am PDT #23827 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I do something similar with the InDesign files of one or two page in-house marketing flyers and such, where I don't want to have a bazillion versions of the source files on my computer in case someone else needs to output something while I'm away. But I always have the first-pass, second-pass, etc. review PDFs to refer to should it ever be necessary. Anything for an outside client gets a copy saved at each step in case we're told to go back to whatever version or there's an invoice dispute over the amount of changes agreed upon.


Gudanov - Jun 29, 2016 5:45:52 am PDT #23828 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Something I really don't understand is why MS Word doesn't have integration with version control software. It seems like such a natural.