There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - May 04, 2016 11:48:44 am PDT #20958 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I hate so much that our culture insists we are all salespeople of ourselves as the product.

I dislike that, in many instances, the default is to want to be promoted from worker bee to manager, and management is the only way to earn that gold-plated unicorn. I don't ever want to manage people, but my skillz have real value. It pisses me off.

(Also, good management is a skill [and, I would argue, somewhat of an art], and separates really good companies from average companies. I'm not in any way denigrating management -- I think people who are good at it are a tremendous asset and totally deserve their gold-plated unicorn. I just don't like that, in so many companies, moving from worker bee to management is the only real track for promotion, and it leads to people getting into management who NEVER should have been allowed near it.)


Gudanov - May 04, 2016 11:54:47 am PDT #20959 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Why don't you have a system that the patient, the doctor, and the insurance company can all access, so we don't have these problems?

There's a natural incentive to make getting health care painful. Having people actually getting health care isn't in the best interest of health insurance companies.


Zenkitty - May 04, 2016 12:05:02 pm PDT #20960 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Health insurance was a good idea when it started. Then some greedy capitalist sociopath saw the potential for immense profit in the idea.

I hate so much that our culture insists we are all salespeople of ourselves as the product. Men! And their sales!

I hate this so much. I'm an introvert. I can't do this even if I wanted to. This is one of the big reasons I haven't ever tried to publish a book. Knowing that I'd have to market and promote it myself just kills me.

And I wholly agree with Steph on the subject of management. I know so many people who are utterly unsuited for managing people end up in management because there's no other route to promotion.


Connie Neil - May 04, 2016 12:26:11 pm PDT #20961 of 30003
brillig

I keep getting accused of not having ambition, of not wanting to leave my comfort zone. What the hell is wrong with my comfort zone, if it's doing a job well, with confidence and experience? I'm happy being a sergeant, why do I have to want to be an officer?


-t - May 04, 2016 12:30:53 pm PDT #20962 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't ever want to manage people, but my skillz have real value. It pisses me off.

Me too. I have mentioned it in some of my meetings with people higher up the foodchain but I think it comes across as "I don't want to move up" when that's not really what I mean - I want a different path to move up and I don't see one.

and it leads to people getting into management who NEVER should have been allowed near it.

Yeah, have definitely seen that. Worked under it, pretty miserably. Had such mixed feelings when she was laid off because while she was not a good manager she had a lot of knowledge and was an asset in other ways. So it goes.


Jesse - May 04, 2016 12:31:20 pm PDT #20963 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

At 4:30 I read an email that gave me a rage blackout, but I can't do anything about until tomorrow, so I just left the office and came home via the liquor store. Now I have wine. I should think about how I'm actually going to handle it, but right now I'm mostly still trying to get my breathing under control.


Dana - May 04, 2016 12:52:15 pm PDT #20964 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

But what about the cheese, Jesse? Did you not get cheese?


Jesse - May 04, 2016 12:54:52 pm PDT #20965 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

WHY DIDN'T I GET CHEESE?? Now I'm right back where Steph was the other night, with only American and basic cheddar in the house.


Steph L. - May 04, 2016 1:00:34 pm PDT #20966 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Now I'm right back where Steph was the other night, with only American and basic cheddar in the house.

I feel your pain. You cannot make a cheese plate of any kind, much less a rage cheese plate, with American.


Connie Neil - May 04, 2016 1:18:20 pm PDT #20967 of 30003
brillig

There was an ad on the radio this morning touting flowers for MOther's Day, and it listed the things you shouldn't get your wife for Mother's day. One of the items listed was "a skein of yarn", and I immediately said "Unless she's a knitter and the skein of yarn is Malabrigo." I've been on Ravelry so long it's infected me.