A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Mar 16, 2016 7:23:17 am PDT #17652 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The other concern is what happens if Trump gets the nomination and doesn't win

I don't think he can win against Clinton.

which leaves you with a lot of angry people who are even angrier

My first instinct is "Fuck them." I'm dying to know what it is about the past 7 years have been so bad that they need to elect this scary-ass bigoted shitlord. Because I really think it comes down to "Vote Trump: I'm not black, Jewish, or a woman!"

And it's terrifying that I live in a country with so many people who are apparently unequivocally bigoted shitlords.


Zenkitty - Mar 16, 2016 7:23:48 am PDT #17653 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Trump's followers think Obama really has "destroyed" the country. Trump goes on about how the military is weak now and other countries don't respect us. And then there's gay marriage and the political correctness, and how we're losing our first and second amendment rights, and there's no jobs, and immigrants getting citizenship and Muslims not being in jail, and we've all become weak for not beating all these people until they shut up about their "rights". Weakness is a big theme. They see the world collapsing around them, I think, and they see Trump as the big man who can fix it.


Steph L. - Mar 16, 2016 7:27:07 am PDT #17654 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

They see the world collapsing around them

Because it doesn't look the way it used to (white, male, straight, and Christian).

The campaign for the general election is going to be horrifyingly ugly (I'm assuming here that Trump and Clinton will be nominated).


Pix - Mar 16, 2016 7:27:48 am PDT #17655 of 30003
The status is NOT quo.

Health ~ma to Consuela and Bonnie.


Zenkitty - Mar 16, 2016 7:30:17 am PDT #17656 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

The campaign for the general election is going to be horrifyingly ugly (I'm assuming here that Trump and Clinton will be nominated).

Yeah. I just hope no one gets shot.

If Trump wins, there'll be more shootings because now they feel vindicated, and if he loses, there'll be more shootings because they feel cheated. I hope I'm being too pessimistic.


-t - Mar 16, 2016 7:38:11 am PDT #17657 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

In my much smaller world: I do not accept that this thing that did not move forward for 6 months until I asked about it is suddenly such a hot priority that further delay of ONE DAY while I was out sick is a big fucking deal. You must chill, other department. I would take away your keys if I could figure out how.


Kalshane - Mar 16, 2016 7:46:09 am PDT #17658 of 30003
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Don't get me wrong, I am in no way suggesting we should let Trump win. It's just likely to get worse before it gets better, no matter what happens.

It's incredibly frustrating because, as great as the Internet is for allowing people to find communities that they never would have otherwise, it's also allowed people hide in their own echo chambers and amplify their crazy to a fever pitch.

I watch people scream about how climate change is a hoax or Obama is trying to destroy Israel or "real unemployment is actually 30%" or whatever and shake my head at their ignorance while they likewise think all liberals are fools who are blindly accepting the "lies" their leaders hand them and their demands for acceptance are naively ignoring the real threat posed by Muslims or gays or whatever.


Steph L. - Mar 16, 2016 7:51:43 am PDT #17659 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

as great as the Internet is for allowing people to find communities that they never would have otherwise, it's also allowed people hide in their own echo chambers and amplify their crazy to a fever pitch.

The flip side of that is that, yet again, I'm so happy to live in Cincinnati's most liberal neighborhood. (It has actually been kind of a sea of Sanders yard signs. I feel sorry that their candidate didn't win Ohio.)


Connie Neil - Mar 16, 2016 8:02:48 am PDT #17660 of 30003
brillig

Because it doesn't look the way it used to (white, male, straight, and Christian).

Just because it's wrong and ludicrous doesn't mean it's not a force to be taken very seriously. In a mass, they won't listen. I think this behemoth can only be taken down a person at a time, with someone willing to grab one of these hate mongers and try to untangle what goes on in his/her head (because it's not just men doing this, a lot of women really like that world they think they used to live in).


Burrell - Mar 16, 2016 8:07:35 am PDT #17661 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I feel like many of Trump's supporters have been spoiling for a fight for years, so violence is inevitable whatever the outcome. I'd rather they riot because he lost or wasn't nominated than have him win and watch them take out their aggressions on the losers.