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I feel like not having seen Solo is getting in the way of my fully appreciating FatWS. That’s unexpected.
I can't remember a goddamn thing about Solo, other than Donald Glover was fangoddamntastic as Lando Calrissian. And Phoebe Waller-Bridge was awesome as the robot.
I can't remember a goddamn thing about Solo, other than Donald Glover was fangoddamntastic as Lando Calrissian. And Phoebe Waller-Bridge was awesome as the robot.
Plus they totally bonded over it and now they're doing a remake of Mr. and Mrs. Smith (the Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie spy movie).
Maybe they'll address this (checks watch...) today, but I want to get this off my chest. Why would he know "everything about Hydra"? He wasn't interested in Hydra! All he cared about was the Avengers!
This just got interesting
But he did hunt down and torture former HYDRA bigwigs for information in the process of enacting his plan, and specifically found out about that program to create Russian super-soldiers. He might at least be a good place to start following leads.
I guess so. I was not so impressed with things this time (
wait, aren't they hiding? why are they at this party?
). I'm still loving the characters and the story, just... I didn't feel like it made sense exactly.
I just don't buy that Sam can impersonate someone else well enough to fool someone who's actually met that person.
And this is incredibly nit-picky, but...
really, Sam? Did you think the Winter Soldier and Zemo would be confused by the mention of Riga?
Oh so complain-y. There was a lot of pretty, they definitely advanced the plot, they made
whats-her-name
both more and less sympathetic... I'm still very much on board! I just found it uneven.
Uneven is a good word for it.
Yeah, that was... odd. I'm easily confused and there were a lot of logical leaps, and also none of my questions about who is funding Bucky and Sam were answered. Under whose authority did they get to
visit Zemo, much less help spring him?
And am I to expect that
Steve Rogers never once reached out to Sharon after she got caught up in the bullshit after Civil War? She was Peggy's niece or something.
That said, they definitely set up
Sharon as a kickass occasional ally.
And now I'm totally stoked that
the Dora Milaje are back. I almost wondered if Shuri herself would show up...
That was... not good, in my opinion.
Clearly the
spycraft stuff is being written by people who haven't the slightest idea how any of that would work. And Zemo is somehow current on info about black market dealings half a world away from where he's been imprisoned for... checks calendar... TEN YEARS?!?
Also,
barons aren't "royalty," it's a title of nobility that indicates a landowning vassal of a monarch. Basically some ancestor of his would have been the Sokovian equivalent of a plantation owner.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Honestly, it felt more comic-booky than usual, but in ways that just don't work off the page.
FYI: I don't think anything here is really spoilery, in case anyone wonders. Except
I did smile at dancing Zemo.
The thing is, exploring actual consequences for the blip is the sort of thing that I love in fanfiction but which really worries me in canon. When fans say, "wait, did people who'd been on a plane pop back in mid-air?" it's an interesting plot hole, but I can say, comic-book logic, I'm sure it's covered (surely they thought through the more obvious problems?). If the canon has consequences like that, then the Avengers, rather than being superheroes, have made a really flawed decision based entirely on one person. That's realistic, but it's not superhero discourse.
Anyway, they haven't quite gone there yet, it's just something that's been worrying me. And the mix of "bad guys are chasing them... then they go to a party" comic-book-ness and "disease in overcrowded resettlement camp" real-ness is, I think, what unsettled me about this one. I feel like late Buffy gave me some of these feelings, too? Maybe?
On the other other other hand, I'm actually really interested in exploring the consequences, I'm just worried they haven't established which kind of world we're in.
I have more ridiculously overthought thoughts, but I'll save them. They have to do with self-published shifter romance pitfalls and thus deserve their own post.