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I got so much emotional closure but man, I am not ready to close out this chapter.
I un-whitefonted it for ease of quick-editing, but also b/c it's not spoilery. And: YES. I get too damn attached to my fandoms and I feel like I just went through a breakup. I don't want the OG (MCU) Avengers to be done.
I really had that after Return of the King came out. It's not quite the same for me here, maybe because the scope is so much bigger, and because there will be more movies to come. But yeah, I'm gonna miss our six.
Dana, Andi and I saw it at 9PM last night. Thoughts like that kept me up to at least 4 AM.
I hope
Bruce's enHulkened brain was capable of making caveats for his snap. If-Then statements would be possible. Otherwise, bodies would be falling from skies, people materializing in traffic, etc. (Buildings that have since been burned or torn down, or hit by falling planes...)
Yeah, I'd think there was a general
"safely return everyone" sentiment that got across. Although someone else somewhere on the internet pointed out, does that help the people who were on the planes that crashed when their pilots disappeared? Or who were killed in car accidents, or surgery, or whatever else when half of everything vanished?
I am . . . not completely satisfied.
So Loki's in the wind, after they got the Tesseract from the base and apparently putting it back there. Thereby negating everything that happened in the original time line afterwards that involved Loki. I really dislike "We'll fix it with time travel!" plot lines.
And Cap negated everything that came about because he wasn't around for seventy years--plus willingly letting Bucky suffer!
On a less time line upsetting point, as soon as I saw Tony already had his happy ending, complete with kid named Morgan, I was in dread.
It was heroic in the tragic sense and messy. I was hoping the Soul Stone would be satisfied by both Clint and Natasha being absolutely willing to die, then I remembered Skull saying it had to be permanent. How did Cap put that back? Did he go to Vormir and toss the Soul Stone over the edge? Did he chat with Skull?
The Russos can
do tighter plot lines. Though I don't know if they did write this.
Connie,
I think that - assuming Professor Hulk and Nebula had it right - that Loki's Great Escape didn't change their timeline, but instead created a new alternate timeline with added Loki. (I think that also means that our timeline now has a past Gamora running around, and there's a new timeline that's been missing the whole Thanos crew for a few years.)
I don't know what the deal was with Cap. I like the solution that his last stop was returning the Time Stone to SWINTON, and she then used it to mess with things - so his outcome differed from the quantum time travel rules. I don't know whether that means he hid out in our timeline with Peggy for 70 years, or if he had his own alternate timeline (where perhaps he intervened in a couple of things) and was then popped back into our timeline to say goodbye to everyone.
Either way, I would've loved to see him having a chat with Red Skull.
I am completely with you on your last line, billy.
Wow, that's a lot of Endgame references.
Spoilers abound.
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Wow, that's a lot of Endgame references.
Spoilers abound.
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PMM said:
I was surprised to
weep for Tony.
I was, too, and especially
that it was frickin' Jon Favreau who did me in. I am going to be pretty pathetic the next time I eat a cheeseburger.