No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.

Discussion of non-MCU Marvel titles like the X-Men or the Fantastic Four is also permitted. Ties to comics may be discussed, but this is not the primary forum for comics discussion (see the Other Media thread).

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Jon B. - May 08, 2018 6:36:24 pm PDT #2222 of 4009
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Yep!

When's the fundraiser?


Connie Neil - May 08, 2018 7:18:54 pm PDT #2223 of 4009
brillig

I'm going to need to revamp my DVD storage.


DCJensen - May 08, 2018 10:06:16 pm PDT #2224 of 4009
All is well that ends in pizza.

Watched IW today.

Andi has decided that she is done with Marvel.

As I love her, I'm going to wait for a while to make my case of staying with them.


P.M. Marc - May 08, 2018 10:11:25 pm PDT #2225 of 4009
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I watched it today, too! And it moved up another notch in my MCU rankings, surprisingly.


Jesse - May 09, 2018 5:37:17 am PDT #2226 of 4009
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

When's the fundraiser?

Thursday the 24th, in town somewhere (I forget).


sj - May 12, 2018 5:49:50 pm PDT #2227 of 4009
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I finally saw Infinity War today and Teppy's reaction was sort of mine too

I went in totally braced for
Tony and Steve (ahahahaha, "I am Groot." "I am Steve Rogers.") to die, and since they didn't, I kind of don't know how to react.

I don't think I really liked the movie tbh, but yet I feel like I need to see it again. It was so completely different from what I was expecting that I'm not sure I took it all in. Overall, too much fighting and not enough snappy dialogue for my taste. Or what Laura said:

Also, if Laura had been in charge
instead of 90% battles and 10% witty banter and personality interactions there would have been 90% witty banter and personality interactions and 10% battles.

"All of that for a little drop of blood" is going to be important, isn't it?

The movie never followed up on the fact
that Doctor Strange did see one future where they won. So...by giving Thanos the Time Stone, was Doctor Strange just playing a long game to lead to that outcome? Obviously the outcome would be in the next Avengers movie, called "Avengers 4: We Got Your Continuity Right Here."

Teppy, I think that is going to be very important in the next movie, and I think he was trying to tell Tony that right before he disappeared.

"Why was she up there this whole time?"

Best line!


Steph L. - May 13, 2018 4:38:42 am PDT #2228 of 4009
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I saw Infinity War again last night, partly because when I saw it the first time I was loopy as hell on migraine meds. And I have to say, seeing it with a clear head, the deaths hit me a LOT harder this time. Especially Gamora and Groot (for Groot, mostly because of Rocket's reaction -- I still occasionally can't believe how the MCU got me to care so damn much about a CGI racoon).

And one thing that didn't really hit me the first time around was that all the original Avengers (except Hawkeye, since he wasn't there, duh) survived because, narratively, they had to lose. Like, I genuinely didn't understand that until I saw it again last night. (Conclusion: don't see movies when tripping balls on migraine meds.)

One thing that I think the movie hammered WAY too hard was trying to get us to sympathize with Thanos (or, at the very least, to see his pain at killing his daughter), and I am just not on board for that. And I'm trying to figure out the difference between the way Infinity War pushed me to sympathize with Thanos and the way I walked out of Black Panther thinking damn, his methods were wrong, but Killmonger had a damn point, and wow, was his arc heartbreaking. I never felt like Black Panther was pushing me to sympathize with Killmonger. It was really clear he was not a good guy, but I still had some complicated feels for the dude. I don't know if that was Ryan Coogler's intent, but it worked. And yet, I feel like the Russos pushed it too damn hard in Infinity War.


Steph L. - May 13, 2018 4:42:53 am PDT #2229 of 4009
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And it moved up another notch in my MCU rankings, surprisingly.

Seeing it with a clear head did make it move up in my MCU rankings, too. I actually liked it a lot, and it's in my top 10, but DAMN, is it depressing as shit. Like, when the movie was over, my audience just kind of filed out silently, except for me, because I was ranting to Tim how the movie really did Sam Wilson dirty by making him turn to mulch with no one to witness it WHAT THE FUCK MARVEL why would you do that?


-t - May 13, 2018 6:03:21 am PDT #2230 of 4009
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Like, I genuinely didn't understand that until I saw it again last night.

Oh! Ok, yeah. Thanks for spelling that out, I was not getting there myself.


P.M. Marc - May 13, 2018 9:57:57 am PDT #2231 of 4009
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

And yet, I feel like the Russos pushed it too damn hard in Infinity War.

Hmm, I disagree, and here is why! I don't think they were trying to get us to sympathize with him; I think they were trying to get us to see him and his motivations and to understand why he had them, while explicitly calling out that his myopic Malthusian views were, well, myopic. (And by explicitly, I mean, Gamora actually calls him on it and his certainty that he's right.) Thanos is the central character, but the movie never mistakes him for anything but horrible and abusive. Yeah, they show that he does love her, but they also show that love not always a positive thing and that you can love something or someone and be horrific. He's all the more horrifying to me for effectively being a cult leader with a savior complex, even adopting children in the case of Gamora and Nebula--who were ripped from their families, families he destroyed in his "righteous" quest--and claiming that he'd saved them and was the reason for any of their good qualities. (Aside: I've seen too many people No True Scotsmaning love in the wake of this movie, which frustrates the hell out of me because it does a disservice to understanding that abuse and love are not mutuall exclusive.)

I also think it works better than the comics version of killing half the universe for a crush.