Is 45 minutes of that SLO mo Of long-haired bearded Cap running and/or working out? Cause if not, I'd like to talk to some editors.
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msbelle - Mar 08, 2018 11:20:45 am PST #1871 of 4009
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Connie Neil - Mar 08, 2018 11:59:28 am PST #1872 of 4009
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And a whole bunch of Bucky-Steve reunioning.
Strix - Mar 09, 2018 4:07:16 am PST #1873 of 4009
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Honestly, the fact that Tony thought "Oh, hey, I'll grab this 15 y.o. and haul him off to Germany to take down fucking CAPTAIN AMERICA" as opposed to the 4 goddamned adult superheroes making the news in NYC for the past several years...
Strix - Mar 09, 2018 4:08:31 am PST #1874 of 4009
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
...3 I suppose. Iron Fist is on the DL, I guess, but DD, Luke Cage and JJ have all been prominent in the news.
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 09, 2018 5:56:05 am PST #1875 of 4009
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
But Peter is considerably more powerful and his powers lend themselves well to non-violently incapacitating people, for that don't-wanna-kill-my-friends ethic. I think any of the four would be seriously outclassed in that fight (though Wanda was probably the only ally of Cap's that could have hurt Luke), whereas Peter held his own.
From a perspective of potential harm, siccing Vision on the opposing team was a bigger blunder. He's the one that was knocking down whole buildings, and used a ranged attack on a normal human that was capable of disabling an Iron Man suit. (For comparison, Tony has taken multiple blows from Thor and the Hulk in those things and not suffered serious injury!)
Strix - Mar 09, 2018 10:25:39 am PST #1876 of 4009
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Hawkeye is non-powered. And PP is fifteen!! And IM lied to his guardian and took him out of the country to fight against the Avengers...against whom a decorated war veteran of 30 years was permanently paralysed.
DD and IF would have been much better choices. I'm pretty sure JJ would have told them to fuck off, and LC might have still been in prison...and it's likely DD and IF might have not been too keen on the idea either.
I think LC and DD would have been very against registration. JJ would not like it but she's very outed so I think she would register. Danny? I dunno. He's dumb as dirt -- I can't tell.
Steph L. - Mar 09, 2018 10:31:38 am PST #1877 of 4009
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Honestly, the fact that Tony thought "Oh, hey, I'll grab this 15 y.o. and haul him off to Germany to take down fucking CAPTAIN AMERICA"
Right? I love Spidey (LOOOOOVE), but he has no business being in Infinity War, Iron Spider or no.
Gris - Mar 09, 2018 10:41:49 am PST #1878 of 4009
Hey. New board.
I mean, Tony is pretty obviously the villain of that movie, right? The fact that that it hasn't really stuck is totally just Comics!, movie version. He got Peter because Peter was gullible and hero-worshippy, full stop. Black Panther was only on his side to kill Bucky; I don't think he had a real opinion on the registration issue (though I haven't seen his personally movie yet, so maybe not). Vision was on his side because I-don't-really-know-why; I don't read his comics and in the movies he mostly just feels like Doctor Manhattan, who also detachedly worked for the good of a semi-fascist government. Black Widow was on his team because... I don't know? I think it would have made more sense to flip her and Hawkeye if 5-on-5 with two ringers was a necessity, but whatever.
That said, I think his ignoring the TV-verse makes sense. Jessica and Luke would totally have called Iron Man on his BS because damn the man. Daredevil isn't fond of big government either, and is way too smart not to see through Tony.
I hope that Peter actually figures out Tony is kind of awful in the next movie and they get their own little showdown.
Tom Scola - Mar 09, 2018 10:44:22 am PST #1879 of 4009
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Vision was on his side because I-don't-really-know-why;
Daddy issues.
Steph L. - Mar 09, 2018 11:12:08 am PST #1880 of 4009
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Vision was on his side because I-don't-really-know-why;
Daddy issues.
I just snorted fizzy water through my nose from laughing.
I mean, Tony is pretty obviously the villain of that movie, right?
I don't think he's supposed to be. Honestly, when the movie didn't feel like Avengers 3 (or maybe Avengers 2.5), it felt like Iron Man 4 to me. All the way through, you can see why he does what he does (not that it justifies it). I mean, I get that in a good movie, you should be able to see why the villain does what he/she does, so just because we see Tony's motivation, that wouldn't automatically mean he's the good guy.
But still. In CA:CW, he's not a whole hell of a lot different than he's been in the other movies. He has hella issues (I don't say that flippantly; the dude has PTSD from the battle of New York and needs serious therapy, no matter what he says at MIT in the beginning of the movie), but he's not the villain.
Yes, I'm Team Cap and anti-signing the Sokovia Accords, but that still doesn't make Tony the villain.