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True, but the IM parts bothered me the most for some reason.
Exactly! They spend three movies developing the relationship between Tony and Jarvis, including the "Don't leave me, buddy" line, and then Tony replaces Jarvis by sorting through a pile of fancy USB chips?
Not to mention Tony blowing up all the armor then having an army of drones. Grr.
It's like Joss glanced over some basic plot summaries of the solo movies and all he took away was "Oh, Tony doesn't have the arc reactor anymore, that'll make costuming easier."
IM2 has the watch-from-the-hall party scenes. They make sense for the narrative, but they're cringe-inducing.
Whereas IM3 has Tony trying to deal with his PTSD and horrible emotional coping skills. Plus a giant bunny.
(No, I am never going to be over the inclusion of the giant bunny.)
I always skip the party scenes.
IM2 has Natasha and Nick Fury in the diner.
True, but the IM parts bothered me the most for some reason.
Being fonder of Natasha and Steve than of Tony, I was bothered more by how little he could be bothered to even pretend to give a fuck about their character development. But they're all bothersome.
No one mentioned ANYTHING about the last post-credits scene in Ant-Man HOLY CRAP.
That would require having seen Ant-Man, though I've seen the GIFs.
I'm still internally squeeing about that scene.
Captain America: Civil War is shaping up to be a better Avengers film than Ultron was. Joss is so going to get served.
No one mentioned ANYTHING about the last post-credits scene in Ant-Man HOLY CRAP.
I just saw it! I was with friends and they laughed at my barely-repressed bounce and squee. Then afterwards we discussed it. So many questions! There are
ACCORDS
now? Does that mean
Tony's side won? Or was there a compromise? How the eff did Bucky end up with his arm in a vise? Why weren't Cap and Falcon in uniform? And why does Sebastian Stan always look like he just got laid?
I need to know!
I don't like the whole Civil War thing, intensely. But so far I've only really disliked one thing the MCU has done (as opposed to screwing up my face and grumbling quietly) so I'm holding on and waiting to see how I feel about it after I see it. They totally surprised me with Ant-Man, after all. I hated Hank Pym in the comics and always thought Ant-Man was the stupidest superhero; I didn't expect to find the movie anything more than tolerable. And yet I enjoyed it completely. Much more than I enjoyed Ultron.
The fact that Ant-Man was more enjoyable than Ultron kinda turns my world upside-down.
I liked that Pym had a very good reason why he didn't
want Hope in the suit, and that by the end he'd changed his mind.
I also liked when Hope said
"About damn time," because I felt like that was a reference to women superheroes in the MCU.
I didn't like the reappearance of the
"super-competent woman trains goofy man to be as good as her in a few days"
trope, but ehhh, it was almost unavoidable - movie called Ant-Man not Wasp. At least they expressed surprise that he was that good, instead of calling him the Chosen One or some shit.
Also also, I was so glad that the emotional pain that motivated Scott Lang was not
the death of a woman, but the love of his child.
That was so refreshing and lovely. As was
his ex-wife not being a total unreasonable bitch.
It was also refreshing that everyone just kinda accepted and adjusted to the wacky shrinking thing and the
giant pet ant
because they loved Scott, instead of having the whole denial freak-out that used to be required after the hero revealed he was not your normal dude.
Oh, hey, it was also pretty great that someone finally actually said, "WHY DON'T WE JUST CALL THE AVENGERS?!?" I loved that this movie solidly took place in the world that had been affected by all the shit that happened in the previous MCU movies, instead of seeming to be a stand-alone.
One of my friends hasn't seen it yet, so I'm probably going to see it again. Yeah, I liked it.
I loved that this movie solidly took place in the world that had been affected by all the shit that happened in the previous MCU movies, instead of seeming to be a stand-alone.
OK, I may go see this now, if it acknowledges all the rest of the MCU instead of Joss' apparent "What? They do things in movies other than the ones I make? No they don't."
