Oh, I wish those council guys would let me have an hour alone in the room with her, if I was larger and had grenades.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.

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Jessica - Nov 07, 2016 3:54:14 am PST #1229 of 4004
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Needless to say, stay all the way through the credits.

Spoiler alert: that movie you just watched was only a 2-hour long trailer for Dr Strange 2! (But yes, there are TWO end credit scenes, so if MCU canon is important to you, you'll want to stay.)


Tom Scola - Nov 07, 2016 5:31:04 am PST #1230 of 4004
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

That's pretty much the modus operandi for Marvel films these days: A mid-credits scene to tease a future MCU movie, and a post-credits scene to set up the sequel to the movie you're watching. If they vary from that, it's probably because of scheduling, or they haven't decided yet if there will be a sequel.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 07, 2016 5:43:38 am PST #1231 of 4004
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I thought it interesting that they killed off the Ancient One without Strange being ready to take her place as Sorcerer Supreme. In fact he has nowhere near the expertise of Wong, Mordo, or the other masters aside from what he learned about using the Eye of Agamotto. Though I suppose he may have learned a lot depending on just how many times his encounter with Dormammu was looped and how much practice that afforded him.


Zenkitty - Nov 07, 2016 7:30:30 am PST #1232 of 4004
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I thought that was interesting too, Matt. But maybe it was an acknowledgment that Strange really couldn't have learned EVERYTHING he needed to know to be Sorceror Supreme in such a short time. I took it as the best they could do with the source material to NOT have a "White Man Who Does It Better Than The POC Masters" character. Several times they mentioned both that he still has lots to learn, and that it's remarkable that he advanced so quickly (once he learned to "surrender his ego"). This movie was all the things I like, so I was biased to like it despite its flaws, and I was not disappointed. Perfect, no, lotsa fun, yes.


Zenkitty - Nov 07, 2016 7:32:12 am PST #1233 of 4004
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Oh, and also: we saw it in IMAX 3D, which was trippy and cool, but the effects aren't necessary, so 2D would be fine if you think 3D will make you sick.


Scrappy - Nov 07, 2016 7:54:06 am PST #1234 of 4004
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I enjoyed the heck out of it. I thought Bricklayer Crumpetbum's performance was excellent, but his accent was so-so. He wears the cape with wonderful panache.


Jessica - Nov 07, 2016 8:02:33 am PST #1235 of 4004
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

This movie was all the things I like, so I was biased to like it despite its flaws, and I was not disappointed. Perfect, no, lotsa fun, yes.

As I said on FB, as Matrix/House fanfic goes, this was top notch.


Zenkitty - Nov 07, 2016 8:58:20 am PST #1236 of 4004
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I thought Bricklayer Crumpetbum's performance was excellent, but his accent was so-so.

Strange was educated at Oxford. handwaving

He wears the cape with wonderful panache.

The sassy cape was my second favorite character.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 07, 2016 3:01:39 pm PST #1237 of 4004
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Zen, the only thing is, there really wasn't anything substantial that required the beginning of the story to be set in 2016, rather than far enough back to give Strange his canonical 7+ years of tutelage under the Ancient One before moving back to New York to stand on his own. That actually would have worked far better to give him the time for character development such as realizing his own mistakes and being apologetic to Christine Palmer, as well as the bravery and self-sacrifice needed for his solution to the Dormammu problem. As far as I can tell, the only reason the movie didn't start in the mid-2000s or earlier was so Wong could name check the Avengers when showing off the big magic globe display.


Zenkitty - Nov 07, 2016 4:49:56 pm PST #1238 of 4004
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I agree, Matt. It's unrealistic to think all of that happened in one year. It really only had to be 2016 when he was touring the library and Wong mentioned the Avengers. I prefer to think everything previous took a more reasonable amount of time. I'm real good at handwaving and retconning on the fly.