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Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises
Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.
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Connie Neil - Oct 26, 2016 10:17:28 am PDT #1208 of 4004
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kat perez - Oct 26, 2016 10:17:57 am PDT #1209 of 4004
"We have trust issues." Mylar
I don't know about anyone else, but for me the thing that really turned me off about the casting kerfuffle was more about the response from the filmmakers and the studio than it even was about the casting of Swinton itself. When pressed, they were basically like, "We need to make money. China doesn't like stuff about Tibet, so we couldn't make the character Tibetan" which I guess means that the character then automatically had to be white? I don't know. It was a ham handed response and they haven't done any better at addressing the issue as the controversy has continued to roil. I'll admit, I'm conflicted. I will probably wind up seeing the movie anyway, but handling the PR fall out has been poorly done on Marvel Studio's part. Very poorly done. Also, the whole "We can't make money if we cast POC" thing needs to die a horrible, horrible death. Quickly.
P.M. Marc - Oct 26, 2016 11:04:39 am PDT #1210 of 4004
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
"We need to make money. China doesn't like stuff about Tibet, so we couldn't make the character Tibetan" which I guess means that the character then automatically had to be white? I don't know. It was a ham handed response and they haven't done any better at addressing the issue as the controversy has continued to roil.
There's an interesting interview that addresses it more thoroughly and with mixed results (linking to the start of a Twitter thread about it). [link]
Jessica - Oct 26, 2016 12:34:54 pm PDT #1211 of 4004
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I am conflicted between my firm philosophical stance against whitewashing and my firm philosophical stance in favor of more Tilda Swinton all the time. Also my less firm philosophical stance that we have passed peak Cumberbatch so I'm not clawing at the walls to see or boycott the movie either way.
(In conclusion, I have nothing to add and am posting mostly to see my own pixels? Hi, I'm Jessica and I like the sound of my own voice.)
kat perez - Oct 26, 2016 4:14:38 pm PDT #1212 of 4004
"We have trust issues." Mylar
I think more SWINTON is something we all can get behind!
quester - Oct 26, 2016 5:08:10 pm PDT #1213 of 4004
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
(In conclusion, I have nothing to add and am posting mostly to see my own pixels? Hi, I'm Jessica and I like the sound of my own voice.)
(Hi Jessica!)
Glamcookie - Oct 27, 2016 6:16:42 am PDT #1214 of 4004
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Can AoS please stop with the cheesy-ass Ghost Rider tagline already? The storyline is fine, but damn is that shit nerving me. ("Nerving me" came from a German friend - isn't it the best?)
Steph L. - Oct 27, 2016 9:20:11 am PDT #1215 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
Devin Grayson wrote a Dr. Strange novel: [link] Interesting.
sj - Nov 03, 2016 4:13:58 am PDT #1216 of 4004
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
All caught up on AoS. Will Ghost Rider's brother's paralysis be magically cured at the end of this story arc? And if not, why couldn't they have hired an actor with a disability? Either way, I'm annoyed.
Tom Scola - Nov 03, 2016 6:21:56 pm PDT #1217 of 4004
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500
So Dr. Strange was good, gorgeous to look at, worth seeing, but it easily could have been way better. Whitefont rant below:
So in what has to be the best-cast Marvel movie ever. The performances from Cumberbatch, Swinton, Ejiofor, McAdams, everyone, was really, really, really flat. So disappointing. And then suddenly, in the mid-credits sequence, for a brief moment, Cumberbatch suddenly came to life and started projecting. That's because the mid-credits sequence was directed by Taika Waititi and not Derrickson.
In short, Scott Derrickson makes a really gorgeous looking film, but can't work with actors. I hope they get someone else to direct the sequel.
Maybe more in the morning.