No, no, no, sir. No more chick pit for you. Come on.

Riley ,'Lessons'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Aug 30, 2014 9:38:22 am PDT #5199 of 30000

I would call an electrician in both -t and Consuelas cases.


flea - Aug 30, 2014 9:52:59 am PDT #5200 of 30000
information libertarian

I am thinking about walking away from the house we have under contract. The inspection turned up a bunch of stuff, and we asked the seller to fix it all (all of it really basic deferred maintenance stuff that he should have kept up on, as he's owned the place for 40 years and is rich, and some of it safety issues, like fuse boxes not to code), and he offered us a measly $5000 price reduction. I am like, "Fuck him, let's walk." But mr. flea wants to counter, because he thinks this 2-family rental thing is a good deal long term. But I mostly just want to set things on fire and piss on the ashes. What to do? (I mean, we did not object to the vintage 1982 kitchen, the carpeted bathroom, the 40 year old boiler and the 19 year old hot water heaters, and the fact that there's no central air. But he won't fucking fix the rotted soffit? I want to kill him.)


-t - Aug 30, 2014 10:11:18 am PDT #5201 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I get that. And if every time something needs repairing it's going to make you mad at him all over again, that's probably not good. OTOH, if you can mad now and get it all out, it's not like you ever had to see him again once you own the house.

I'm not calling an electrician. Maybe I'll take a closer look at the wiring, though.


Ginger - Aug 30, 2014 10:13:10 am PDT #5202 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

-t, have you tried the tube that's working in the place of one of the tubes that's not coming on? That will tell you if it's the ballast (or starter). Also, have you considered using fewer bulbs to reduce the brightness?

I'd replace all of them, because the older one will give less light than the new ones.


Jesse - Aug 30, 2014 10:21:56 am PDT #5203 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Went to the hardware store twice (of course I did), and started hanging stuff on the walls. Is a poster of this too creepy to hang in the guest bedroom?

Of course that was not even on my to-do list.


P.M. Marc - Aug 30, 2014 10:24:21 am PDT #5204 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Well, how much is it to fix the soffit, for instance? I think Mr. Flea's probably got the right of it by countering, but get some estimates on the immediate repairs first.


-t - Aug 30, 2014 10:26:17 am PDT #5205 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I have not tried moving the tube that still lights, yet, Ginger. I'm a little afraid that if I move it it will stop working and the new tubes won't work, but I'll try it in a minute.

I've been getting by with just the one tube for months, maybe over a year, and it's fine brightness-wise but when it does eventually go out I'll have to deal with a totally dark kitchen. It's got small windows facing north and east, both under overhangs, so the natural light is not great. Maybe it's time to start thinking about revamping my lighting in there.

ETA: Not too creepy, Jesse. Unless it glows in the dark.


-t - Aug 30, 2014 10:35:12 am PDT #5206 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Huh. So, both the tubes in the other ballast lit up, but when I remove one they both go out. Didn't know that happened. Tried putting one old one and one new one in each ballast and that seems to get all four lighting up. So I'm going with that.

I don't understand it, but if it works, okay.


Ginger - Aug 30, 2014 10:46:25 am PDT #5207 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Fluorescent tubes are freaky. Maybe it takes two tubes to complete the circuit?

flea, I don't know why there aren't more homicides related to home buying. I have bought three houses and loathed the owners of each with the heat of 10,000 suns.


-t - Aug 30, 2014 10:51:42 am PDT #5208 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Maybe. I'm guessing that the smaller tubes don't draw enough juice to pass some safety threshold unless they are paired with a larger one.

Maybe I will get rid of the whole fixture before they all burn out again. Aside from not getting how it works, I just don't like it. I'd rather have more ceiling space to hang pots from. Under cabinet lighting. Something not this.