Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Aug 08, 2014 4:11:18 pm PDT #3761 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, I don't know how you are supposed to comply with that.

Man, a whole lot of stuff that I usually bring home on a Friday got left in my cube this week. This is what happens when I get a name plate, I guess. I get complacent. Or I really was ready to get out of there, which god knows I was.


Atropa - Aug 08, 2014 4:19:42 pm PDT #3762 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I told them I'd be happy to work with them--to walk through creation of any of the artefacts, or to write up segments of documents with them, but...should I really be keeping my work? This is at least the third time I've been asked, but this is the first time it's making me anxious.

I've rarely had samples of my tech work for the same reasons, and I offer the same thing you did, ita. Most places are fine with that.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2014 4:34:13 pm PDT #3763 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Could you strip out all identifying information from something?

But I never keep anything. It's not mine and I don't work on my own computers so it would have to be actively purloining it...I don't share anything more complex than notes from my tablet between my devices and theirs.

Though maybe I Dropboxed something once?


sarameg - Aug 08, 2014 4:34:54 pm PDT #3764 of 30000

I think that's a common disconnect between academia and industry hiring. We do a lot of open source at my work. Technically, the stuff the CSC people work on should be proprietary to CSC. Last time CSC tried to pull that hand, the person quit. And was rehired by AURA and CSC was told to go hang. But we run into this sometimes when we hire someone whose history is largely corporate (because of the varied skills gained in the astro field, there are a lot of people like me who terminated the field before the higher degrees, but followed into it on the tech side, but stayed In quasi-academic settings.)


sarameg - Aug 08, 2014 4:52:14 pm PDT #3765 of 30000

Sat on by a Loki, waiting for a call to go transport volatile chem waste. Just a usual Friday night...


brenda m - Aug 08, 2014 4:52:42 pm PDT #3766 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

ita, I think your instincts are right. Work product is something I've been asked for but could never provide. Unless there was something intended to be public, offering to do something for them is about what you and they should respect that.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2014 4:54:42 pm PDT #3767 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I went through my tablet and Dropbox and can't find anything other than a multi-swimlane schedule. Time and time again, it never occurs to me to hang onto stuff, even if the work for hire contract wasn't in place.

They want to give me sample actions to flowchart or write up use cases, I'm perfectly happy. I'll outline an entire requirements document. But I don't feel bad I don't have work from previous jobs--I just feel worried.


Kat - Aug 08, 2014 4:55:32 pm PDT #3768 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I keep a portfolio and several files of all of my work samples. And samples of student work. And samples of work I have collaborated on with colleagues.

I know it's different, but I cannot imagine not keeping it.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2014 5:00:50 pm PDT #3769 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that's a common disconnect between academia and industry hiring.

I guess when you're an environment where people strive to publish it's different from places afraid of corporate espionage.

We ran a whole League of Shadows (I couldn't believe they adopted my nerd terminology) Change Control process where every employee had to be signed in before they could even know what the topic was about. And every vendor had to be doublechecked that they'd signed the right privacy papers, etc. That's been my environment for most of my 25 years working.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2014 5:07:26 pm PDT #3770 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know it's different, but I cannot imagine not keeping it.

Did you sign anything saying you couldn't? I always have (well, maybe not the previous UCLA gig, I guess).