Now you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty flowered bonnet, I will end you.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 26, 2015 10:01:06 am PDT #29725 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, in re: Roberts's assertion about marriage across time and space: [link]


Burrell - Jun 26, 2015 10:24:17 am PDT #29726 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I mean, whatevs to both of them, not to you, Burrell!

Heh, yeah, I get it.

Scalia is a total crank! Not to mention an unrepentant asshole.


Kat - Jun 26, 2015 10:30:42 am PDT #29727 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Jesse, Roberts was addressing a point made in the majority opinion when Kennedy wrote that marriage “has existed for millennia and across civilizations." And so the articulation of the fact that this is in fact a radical and important change in defining marriage relative to where it had been defined before is less idiotic in that context. Don't bring up millenia and civilizations, even as a set up for counterarguments, if you are going to be annoyed that someone else DEFINES those civilizations.

I do agree this is radical redefinition of marriage. I also think it's a necessary, just, and timely one.


-t - Jun 26, 2015 10:46:04 am PDT #29728 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

As I suspected, reheating my beautifully cooked shrimp in the microwave does not preserve the perfection of the texture. Not ruined by any means, but not as good.


P.M. Marc - Jun 26, 2015 10:50:41 am PDT #29729 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I have a friend who has political views that are pretty much completely opposite to the rest of our social group, and he has been known to complain that he can't discuss politics with us because "we're all dismissive and mean."

I know, I know. Expecting pesky facts instead of logical fallacies and vomited up Best Ofs from the Fox News comments sections. So mean.


msbelle - Jun 26, 2015 10:59:10 am PDT #29730 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I have one person on my fb feed posting against the ruling. None of her own writing, mind you, but posts from groups like Concerned Conservative Women and Defenders of Crapass Backwardness or some shit.

I am sure there are a lot more people who disagree with the ruling than her, but they either have me filtered from those posts or are keeping their pieholes shut.


flea - Jun 26, 2015 11:03:51 am PDT #29731 of 30000
information libertarian

I used to think the nastiest man in politics was Jesse Helms. He's dead, and now it's Antonin Scalia. (Yes, I considered Cheney and Kissinger.)


Tom Scola - Jun 26, 2015 11:10:59 am PDT #29732 of 30000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Cheney and Kissinger are actual war criminals, so I'd give them the edge there.


Kat - Jun 26, 2015 11:28:04 am PDT #29733 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I used to think the nastiest man in politics was Jesse Helms.

Here's my conversational showstopper: I saw Helms without a shirt on.


flea - Jun 26, 2015 11:39:25 am PDT #29734 of 30000
information libertarian

Kissinger and Cheney certainly qualify as evil, but both have sort of a coldness to them that doesn't make "nastiest" to me.

ION have we seen my president singing Amazing Grace in his eulogy for Clementa Pinckney? This day, people. [link]