You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Jul 22, 2014 11:03:33 am PDT #2536 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Somebody is not now speaking to me on the book of the face because I pointed out that thinking that Gaza shouldn't be bombed is not the same as hating Israel. When she objected, I pointed out that not liking Obama's policies is not the same as being anti-American.

Clearly I should back away from the arguing.


SuziQ - Jul 22, 2014 11:08:01 am PDT #2537 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Captain Logic. Tugboat. You know the drill.


Laura - Jul 22, 2014 11:13:33 am PDT #2538 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I'd say you were clearly asking for it Theodosia.


Typo Boy - Jul 22, 2014 11:15:21 am PDT #2539 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Theodesia,don't you know that any critique of any action Israel takes is antisemitic (or self-hating if you are Jewish). Whereas Christian Zionists who support Israel in hopes that it will lead to nuclear war in the Middle East, with the remaining Jews all converting to Christianity are not antisemitic.


brenda m - Jul 22, 2014 11:18:25 am PDT #2540 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Sounds like a positive outcome to me.


Theodosia - Jul 22, 2014 11:19:08 am PDT #2541 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I've closed Facebook for now because I'm ready to declare that governments based around any one religion are pretty much always a bad idea.


Burrell - Jul 22, 2014 11:42:23 am PDT #2542 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Remember my transmission problems? First estimate came in at over $4000 for a completely rebuilt transmission. Seriously? So it looks like we need to start thinking very soon about buying a new (for qualities of 'new' that include 'previously owned') car. Arrgh! I so did not need this on my plate right now.

I am trying to focus on the positives, like that the car may be broken but it can drive short distances, that we have a second car that also needs work, but would require less money, so we have time to look for what we want. And that we have a little cushion to get us through this.


Theodosia - Jul 22, 2014 11:47:18 am PDT #2543 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

How old is the car, Burrell? I'm going to spend more than that on replacing my engine, but that brings the trade-in value of my car up from $0 to a significant percentage of what I'm spending, plus I don't have car payments to look forward to.

OTOH, you have kids plus job that needs reliable transportation going forward.


Steph L. - Jul 22, 2014 12:00:06 pm PDT #2544 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Ugh, yeah, we keep repairing our (old) cars (14 years and 21 years -- but Tim drives 1.3 miles to work every day, so an old beater is fine with him) because we're planning to get a newer car, but haven't actually done the research or figured out a budget, and in the interim things like the master cylinder decide to go kaput. V. frustrating. And then the more money we put into repairs, the longer we feel like we need to keep the cars, to "justify" the expense (which I 100% understand is actually the sunk-cost fallacy, but it's easier to get up and leave a crappy movie when you paid $10 for a ticket, versus ditching your car a month after you spend $400 on the master cylinder).

And then -- it seems weird and *almost* (but not quite) unnecessary for us to get a newer car, when Tim's commute is 1.3 miles and my commute is from the bedroom to the living room. But, of course, we do drive my car (at 14, being the newest car) lots of places, just not to work. We need something new*er*, but not necessarily super-new. (Plus we won't be in the same jobs forever -- as far as I know -- and may well need good wheels again.)


Laura - Jul 22, 2014 12:14:16 pm PDT #2545 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

We have 2 older cars. One over 200,000 miles, the other getting close. And my car which has about 70,000, which is the newbie. Cars and car repairs are very stressful for me.

Facebook! I can't say anything whatsoever on there about the situation in Israel because I have friends who are very passionate on both sides. Mostly because of their heritage. Can't touch it without battles. That goes for most things political actually. None of my people have any doubt how far left of the left of progressive that I may sit, but I still limit how much I engage. I'll dispute if others post something insane because I just can't let it go by, but I don't post much that will make people crazy.

As it gets closer to the mid-terms I will surely fail and jump right into it full force again. I mean really I can't just sit and let Florida re-elect our current occupant of the state governor's seat quietly.