No, no, no, sir. No more chick pit for you. Come on.

Riley ,'Lessons'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Apr 07, 2015 8:00:02 am PDT #23873 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

It's funny that I met more evangelicals when I lived in New Jersey, though.

I think the only evangelicals I knew in New Jersey were Korean. Well, they were Seventh-Day Adventist, I think. Is that evangelical? One of them kept trying to get one of my friends to go to church with him.


meara - Apr 07, 2015 8:05:25 am PDT #23874 of 30000

n my experience people who came up Protestant tend to actually have a much stronger grounding in actual scripture than many who were raised Catholic.

Yes. This.


SuziQ - Apr 07, 2015 8:08:03 am PDT #23875 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I was brought up Christian Scientist and while I left before I was old enough to really have to deal with the "physician heal thyself" stuff, I do remember Sunday school. It was mostly the bible stories but with added emphasis on what the story was trying to demonstrate and how that related to life today.


-t - Apr 07, 2015 8:08:05 am PDT #23876 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That was part of the Reformation, though, that people should actually read scripture and not just get told what it said by the Church. Catholicism has a lot of requirements, but reading the bible isn't really one of them. Or wasn't when I was learning that stuff, anyway, and I haven't heard that's changed.

There's a variant of Buddhism called Pure Land Buddhism that holds that nothing matters except a true belief that a particular boddhisattva will save you. That sort of thing is appealing to many people, of course there will be organizations that espouse it. And what do I know, maybe there's something to it.


Zenkitty - Apr 07, 2015 8:11:00 am PDT #23877 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Yes but...in my experience people who came up Protestant tend to actually have a much stronger grounding in actual scripture than many who were raised Catholic. There an argument to be made that for a fair chunk of modern Catholicism it can become all about the ritual and little about the underpinnings.

See, that's interesting to me, because I don't know much about modern Catholicism except from people here. IRL I only know one Episcopalian, who doesn't talk about religion so she's no help. So for many modern Catholics it's become all about the ritual and for many modern Protestants it's become all about the baptism. I went to a Church-run high school where we studied the Bible every single school day, and still no one knew anything! They just didn't pay attention, and the teachers weren't teaching anything BUT the Bible -- no history, no language, no context, and what little of that they did teach, they got wrong. Mainly they were teaching their denomination's tenets, like, no dancing, no drugs at all, no sex outside marriage, no smoking (as the principal hid his cigarettes in his suit jacket and the coach hugged the wife he was blatantly cheating on and the wife swallowed her tranquilizers). Everyone just went on and did whatever they wanted to do and said Praise God a lot. And they asked me why I abandoned the church.


Calli - Apr 07, 2015 8:13:30 am PDT #23878 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

My parents were Methodists (mainline Protestant Christian). A friend of theirs wanted to get their support to become a pastor of a new, independent Protestant church. They said, essentially, "That's great! Which seminary are you going to?" His response was that he'd heard the call of God, so clearly God figured he was qualified. And if God wanted him to know any more about the Bible than he'd already figured out, He'd let him know.

I don't believe my parents provided any financial support.


tommyrot - Apr 07, 2015 8:14:47 am PDT #23879 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

And they asked me why I abandoned the church.

Huh. There wasn't any hypocritical stuff going on in my church that I knew of.

I abandoned the church when I was 19 because I thought Pascal's Wager was lame.


Tom Scola - Apr 07, 2015 8:17:57 am PDT #23880 of 30000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

There's a variant of Buddhism called Pure Land Buddhism that holds that nothing matters except a true belief that a particular boddhisattva will save you.

Similar to the Hindu Bhakti movement.


Zenkitty - Apr 07, 2015 8:17:57 am PDT #23881 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

That was part of the Reformation, though, that people should actually read scripture and not just get told what it said by the Church.

Which is one reason why I don't understand why so many Protestants don't do it. I mean, my mom read the Bible a lot, but she read the same "inspiring" passages over and over.

Catholicism has a lot of requirements, but reading the bible isn't really one of them.

I did not know that.

There's a variant of Buddhism called Pure Land Buddhism that holds that nothing matters except a true belief that a particular boddhisattva will save you. That sort of thing is appealing to many people, of course there will be organizations that espouse it.

It's a very appealing idea. I think (limited knowledge here) that there's a similar belief in a certain sect of Hinduism, that loving Krishna with all your heart is all you have to do.


Zenkitty - Apr 07, 2015 8:19:19 am PDT #23882 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Similar to the Hindu Bhakti movement.

Ha! I think that was what I was thinking of.