It's all about choices, Faith. The ones we make, and the ones we don't. Oh, and the consequences. Those are always fun.

Angelus ,'Smile Time'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Apr 07, 2015 5:31:14 am PDT #23855 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Meditation at least can be short.

That's true. Literally one minute can be worthwhile. OTOH, I find yoga or tai chi or similar better for getting me out of my head when that is really what I want. Meditation being all about being present in my head which sometimes sucks, you know? But is also good.

You know what i haven't had yet? Coffee. That would probably help with the sense-making.


Jesse - Apr 07, 2015 5:34:52 am PDT #23856 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OTOH, I find yoga or tai chi or similar better for getting me out of my head when that is really what I want. Meditation being all about being present in my head which sometimes sucks, you know? But is also good.

Totally. A physical thing can make me focus on my body, not my head. Even a massage! Although lately, my massage therapist has been really chatty, which sometimes I like and sometimes not so much. It all works out, though -- at least we're talking about interesting non-stressful things.


Zenkitty - Apr 07, 2015 5:41:28 am PDT #23857 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

There are certain prayers and services that can only be said as a community, rather than as individual people, and ten men is what's considered necessary to count as doing it as a community. (Or, it was then. Non-Orthodox Jewish groups now will count women in the ten.)

Ah, okay. So it's something that can only be done with ten men, not something that has to be done when you get to ten.


Connie Neil - Apr 07, 2015 5:45:44 am PDT #23858 of 30000
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Somebody explain this to me? Ten Jewish men in the same area triggers the Apocalypse unless they do a service? (Probably not, but that's the first thing I thought of.)

Would still be a really fun Supernatural episode, with the right approach. "No, Dean, no, that's not what it is." "Are you sure, Sammy? Because, you know, weird shit happens." "No."


Hil R. - Apr 07, 2015 5:51:22 am PDT #23859 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Ah, okay. So it's something that can only be done with ten men, not something that has to be done when you get to ten.

Right. But it's stuff that you're supposed to do whenever you have the opportunity, so if you usually have nine men, and a tenth is visiting, you're going to get him to be your tenth. (In NYC, outside some of the synagogues in areas that are mostly offices, where there are men who gather each morning to say the prayers, if they're short a couple people, you'll sometimes see one of them out on the sidewalk, trying to guess which of the guys in suits walking by might be Jewish, and trying to get them to come in so they'll have ten. Similar things happen in houses when people are mourning -- you're supposed to say the prayers each night for a week after the funeral, and there are usually lots of people visiting the first few days, but by the time you get to the last day or two, there will sometimes be frantic phone calls made to try to get enough people. For one of my grandfathers, on the last day, one of the men there called home to get his 14-year-old son and one of his friends to come (boys start counting for this when they turn 13) to be the ninth and tenth, and then, after the prayers, the boys were talking to my sister and me, and the father forgot that he'd called them and left without them, so they had to call their mothers to come pick them up.)


msbelle - Apr 07, 2015 5:51:37 am PDT #23860 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Ugh Laura. I am so sorry.


Jesse - Apr 07, 2015 5:56:35 am PDT #23861 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Similar things happen in houses when people are mourning -- you're supposed to say the prayers each night for a week after the funeral, and there are usually lots of people visiting the first few days, but by the time you get to the last day or two, there will sometimes be frantic phone calls made to try to get enough people.

Just like on Mad Men!


-t - Apr 07, 2015 6:01:03 am PDT #23862 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

After DH's father died he did the year of saying Kaddish every day and the Orthodox guys loved him for showing up to make a minyan all the time. Heck, sometimes he was the tenth man at the weekly Conservative minyan, and those were thriving congregations.


Theodosia - Apr 07, 2015 6:31:48 am PDT #23863 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Many years ago I came across a long article about Jewish life in Alaska, where minyan-gathering involves plane flight logistics, and the nearest rabbi is a chaplain at an Air Force base.


-t - Apr 07, 2015 6:35:52 am PDT #23864 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Like on Northern Exposure!