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Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - Jul 20, 2014 9:32:23 am PDT #2344 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

This has been your Medical Science Minute.

Thank you, Medical Science Woman! Now I know!

You know, if someone offered me a deal where I sign over my house and in exchange get to live in a dormitory with housekeeping and meals provided I would seriously consider it.

Tempting.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2014 9:41:50 am PDT #2345 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Lord. Concern troll friend finally replied about the fatty having the nerve to get a Blizzard:

"On the other hand... Is it different if you see someone engaged in unhealthy behavior in other circumstances. Diabetic friend having soda? Lung cancer survivor smoking? Homeless person asking for money later seen hitting the pipe? All have an addiction and choice element to it, and all have relatively clear consequences, some more visible than others. Hard to know everyone's circumstances but have we become too tolerant of unhealthy choices with the help of marketing? This is different than fat shaming. It's behavior and choice judgement. Hard to say whether we do it too much or too little."

HARD TO SAY IF WE FAT-SHAME TOO LITTLE. Ass. Ass ass ass.

So I replied:

I think that when it comes to a stranger, whose life and circumstances you know nothing about, who you're driving past and seeing literally one glimpse into their life -- it is fat shaming. Because you don't know if that fat person subsists entirely on Blizzards, or if she's on her way home from chemo and a cold frozen concoction is all she can keep down. All you know about her is her size and what she is drinking at one snapshot isolated moment in time. Maybe she was sharing the Blizzard with her spouse. Would that be okay -- or less bad -- since sharing would reduce the amount of calories she was taking in?

All I'm suggesting is that you consider that we can't know any of this when we drive past a stranger and see them holding food or a beverage.

If it's *not* a stranger -- well, then it's up to each person as to what level of advice (solicited or not) they want to give to a friend/co-worker/loved one on his/her choices. In that case, you know more of their life circumstances, and have a larger knowledge base to draw from. That's very different from making an assumption based on one isolated glimpse of a stranger's actions.

Now, in truth, I think that "Fat Friend, stop eating Blizzards!" is going to have one effect: you will lose that friend. But I still meant it the way I phrased it: it is totally up to Concern Troll Friend to decide if he wants to concern troll his friends and family. But he's an ass if he does.


Jessica - Jul 20, 2014 9:51:33 am PDT #2346 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

This is different than fat shaming. It's behavior and choice judgement. Hard to say whether we do it too much or too little."

He's not fat-shaming, it's everything-shaming. So don't take it so personally, jeez! t /eye-roll 4EVAH


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2014 9:57:31 am PDT #2347 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

He's not fat-shaming, it's everything-shaming.

That's fair. He's just being a dick across the board. No crack, no cigarettes, and NO BLIZZARDS.


Jessica - Jul 20, 2014 10:01:20 am PDT #2348 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

No crack, no cigarettes, and NO BLIZZARDS.

Well, at least I'll still have my wine and nachos.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2014 10:02:53 am PDT #2349 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I judge you. Because it's hard to say if we judge enough, so I'd better do some more just to be sure.

t edit I mean, I'm judging the HELL out of him right now.

(It's weird, because this guy is generally a good guy about most things. People just have some areas where they get weird. AND JUDGEY.)


-t - Jul 20, 2014 10:05:09 am PDT #2350 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hard to say whether we do it too much or too little

Judging other people's choices and behavior? We do it too much.

That wasn't hard at all.

I spilled most of my allspice into my measuring spoon drawer and ran out of soy sauce (even the packets from getting takeout!) but I have approximated a goodly quantity of pork bao filling. I think I might make it into meatballs and simmer them in miso broth, that sounds good.

But will not be ready for lunch. Hm.


beth b - Jul 20, 2014 10:19:31 am PDT #2351 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Wait ...it is wrong for someone with diabetes to drink soda? Sorry, while it would be a bad choice for me right now because of what I ate for breakfast this morning....but if my blood sugar is low it might be the fastest choice. You don't know.

sorry, there is a knee jerk there. One of my friends is adding another drug for diabetes to his routine. All of his other numbers are improving - and yet his wife believes he could do more with diet. I want to be angry with her, but really she just doesn't know and is concerned about his health.

So,rule one: if it is a stranger - all judgments must stay in your own head. You are just rude otherwise. Rule two, even if it is someone you know, be really careful about what you say.


Pix - Jul 20, 2014 10:57:28 am PDT #2352 of 30000
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Right, plus with all the pumps and such, diabetes type 1 peeps can pretty much eat whatever they want. They know their health.

People are stupid.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2014 11:04:35 am PDT #2353 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Idris Elba: King Of Speed. I did not know of this show. Just watched him try out a NASCAR track. It's a really slow show (esp considering), and I wanted more detail on just about everything (how fast DID you go???), but fast cars and Idris Elba are two very seductive things to put together.

Next week is road racing. And I have more than half of the F&F series on my TiVo in one fashion or another--you'd think I was entirely someone else.

Ugh. I still need to take my baby to get appraised for the dinged passenger mirror. I hate when she has a boo boo.