Can't drink, smoke, diddle my willy. Doesn't leave much to do other than watch you blokes stumble around playing Agatha Christie.

Spike ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Mar 09, 2015 5:50:04 am PDT #21718 of 30000
information libertarian

In a good example of publishing issues, the guidelines for illustrations at the press this book is going to have specific recommendations for production of Figures from ArcGIS. Luckily I had the sense to contact the editor at the press directly to have her translate sample illustrations into their layout program, because following the posted guidelines didn't work at all, and after round 2 of testing she finally came up with, "oh yeah, the last time we worked with this program we did [foo]," so I did that for round 3 and that worked. (Now please change the official guidelines!)

Okay, back to the Late Middle Helladic and Early Late Helladic at Tsoungiza.


Steph L. - Mar 09, 2015 5:53:05 am PDT #21719 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Like, if the journal would never print [blah], why is that even a negotiation?

It's not a negotiation, but since the author went through and re-inserted [blah] 50 times, I really have to email the author to say "It is journal style," etc., because otherwise when they see their article online with [blah] rather than [foo] they will lose their minds. Some authors get VERY "Do you KNOW WHO I AM?!?" about shit like this.

And then some smaller stuff we let them change back because we just don't want to fight about it. (Which I don't agree with, because if we let some smaller stuff go through, then the next time we tell an author no, they'll do a search on our website and tell us triumphantly that [foo] has been used in 3 articles and therefore we demand to use [foo], too. Which has happened. They're so proud when they find those 3 exceptions out of the thousands of articles on our website.)


Jesse - Mar 09, 2015 6:04:23 am PDT #21720 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I really have to email the author to say "It is journal style," etc., because otherwise when they see their article online with [blah] rather than [foo] they will lose their minds.

Oh sure, but I could (in a different kind of setting) imagine that being a notification, not something that the author would write back to with further revisions. (I.e., rejecting your explicit house style.)


Strix - Mar 09, 2015 6:06:59 am PDT #21721 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Heh, Steph, we have shouted pretty much the same things at authors/businesses we have edited.

And I get SO PISSED when people are all "Oh, your wife doesn't work?" Um. Not only do I battle womanfully against crippling depression and anxiety, I do my best to work as mush as possible, build my business AND while this house fooforaw has been going on, I have also spent at LEAST 3-4 per day deep cleaning, packing, moving stuff around and fielding calls, and sitting in the cold ass garage for 3-7 showings per day because agents get pissy if the owners are IN the house, yanno, LIVING and WORKING like real people, when they are showing.

So, yeah. I get you.

Ugh. The radon inspector was supposed to be here at 9, and no show. Don't they have to come IN the house? And the inspection is at noon today. It's not like I was up til 3:15 WORKING and applying for gigs or anything...

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Steph L. - Mar 09, 2015 6:15:31 am PDT #21722 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I really have to email the author to say "It is journal style," etc., because otherwise when they see their article online with [blah] rather than [foo] they will lose their minds.

Oh sure, but I could (in a different kind of setting) imagine that being a notification

Well, sometimes within the article we will make a comment balloon informing that something is our style (like, if an abbreviation isn't used 5 or more times, we spell out the term -- we don't expect authors to know that, so when we delete an abbreviation we tell them why). But other times, we assume they know we're editing terminology according to our style, not just a whim. If we changed [foo] to [blah] *50 times*, then we clearly have a reason. (Of course, they believe they have a reason for keeping it as [foo], which is why I'm complaining online instead of working.)


Steph L. - Mar 09, 2015 6:25:03 am PDT #21723 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Okay, non-work-related question:

We got a wedding invitation today that noted "Cocktail attire," which sounds swanky but not as swanky as black tie. So Tim can wear his suit, of course, but can I wear this dress (but with stockings, and without the tiara): [link] It's a June wedding, if that makes any difference. That's the most "cocktail attire" dress I have that fits properly.


Jesse - Mar 09, 2015 6:30:13 am PDT #21724 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think you need the tiara.

if an abbreviation isn't used 5 or more times, we spell out the term

Ooh, I am very interested in this as a rule of thumb, but hadn't thought about it that explicitly. The number of acronyms and initialisms we use makes me CRAZY.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 09, 2015 6:42:13 am PDT #21725 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Not in publications, but the theatre artistic director makes all these schedules and documents, and he abbreviates EVERYTHING to the point that I can hardly read it. And he abbreviates weirdly, so he will say on X date there will be a meeting which will be attended by Dir.'s, Des. Mtr, TD, PM, PSM, SSM, AAVE, COstume Designers, Props Master, MST Electrician.

It DRIVES ME BATTY!


Sophia Brooks - Mar 09, 2015 6:43:17 am PDT #21726 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

He also once created an abbreivation for the role "Senior Special Stage Management Mentor) that involved super scripts S(3)M(2).


-t - Mar 09, 2015 6:46:23 am PDT #21727 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That dress is perfect cocktail attire.