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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Jul 16, 2014 6:17:28 am PDT #2047 of 30000
brillig

And I am connien. I'll need to post a picture of my Ugly Gloves I made as part of my technique practice on my loom.


askye - Jul 16, 2014 6:23:51 am PDT #2048 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

I'm alivt on Ravelry.


Steph L. - Jul 16, 2014 6:40:26 am PDT #2049 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Jeez, you guys, I'm editing an article about the rate of overdose deaths due to opioids in states that have medical marijuana laws, compared to states that don't have medical marijuana laws. I thought there'd be a little difference, but the rate of opioid overdose-related deaths in states with medical marijuana laws is a full 25% lower. That's pretty amazing.


SuziQ - Jul 16, 2014 6:43:11 am PDT #2050 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Interesting, Steph. I know marijuana crime rates have dropped significantly, along with the general crime rate, since recreational mj was legalized here.


Rick - Jul 16, 2014 6:48:15 am PDT #2051 of 30000

I would worry about a third variable, that states with enlightened medical policies regarding marijuana would be more likely to have enlightened policies toward other drugs.

But I suppose that a good portion of the Discussion section is spent on that issue.


Jesse - Jul 16, 2014 6:58:00 am PDT #2052 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Wow, that is something. I imagine many many people who use opioids are self-medicating for one thing or another, huh.


Steph L. - Jul 16, 2014 7:05:38 am PDT #2053 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I would worry about a third variable, that states with enlightened medical policies regarding marijuana would be more likely to have enlightened policies toward other drugs.

The article was about overdose deaths from prescribed opioid painkillers. I'm not sure what kind of enlightened policy could exist about that. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

I imagine many many people who use opioids are self-medicating for one thing or another, huh.

The article used data only on people with prescriptions, though it's obviously extremely possible to find a doctor who will write a prescription for opioids without too much diagnosing going on.

My dad has a lot of chronic pain, and takes a staggering amount of opioids. I'm not criticizing, because undertreated/untreated pain management is a legit problem in the medical field, and I'm glad he gets the medication he needs. But really, the amount of oxycodone he takes in one dose -- even though it's prescribed by his doctor -- is a little scary. If Ohio had a medical marijuana law, maybe he could cut back on the meds.


Rick - Jul 16, 2014 7:14:09 am PDT #2054 of 30000

I'm not sure what I expected a site named Ravelry to be about, but it wasn't knitting.

But this brings up a question. Do ravel and unravel mean more or less the same thing? How can that be?


DavidS - Jul 16, 2014 7:27:51 am PDT #2055 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Do ravel and unravel mean more or less the same thing? How can that be?

In the same way that "cleave" can mean cut in two, or joined together.


Rick - Jul 16, 2014 7:34:18 am PDT #2056 of 30000

The article was about overdose deaths from prescribed opioid painkillers. I'm not sure what kind of enlightened policy could exist about that.

Well for instance, I worked in inpatient pain management in the state of Washington, which had an elaborate system in place to pass patients up to expert oversight. Lots of training for physicians, and a strong message that if pain treatment with opioids was anything other than brief and uncomplicated you were at risk if you did not seek consultation. Lots of expert back-up for physicians.

That, and strong training to encourage adequate pain management acutely, so fewer people were drawn into long-term use. When physicians don't feel like they have expert back-up, they tend to under-medicate acutely.

When I moved back to the midwest, I was shocked to see that most pain management was done by family doctors and shady characters with offices in strip malls, with little state involvement unless there was a disaster. There were punitive responses in place if someone overdosed, but not a good structure for helping the physicians do a better job in the first place.