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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


esse - Feb 11, 2015 2:49:07 pm PST #19058 of 30000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

You can take your personal laptop to war. It's a whole new world.

I sympathize so much with your friend. A close friend's national guard unit was called up and saw combat in Iraq, and his wife was a complete wreck. The fear is just so strong.


SailAweigh - Feb 11, 2015 2:50:05 pm PST #19059 of 30000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

SA, that is a very cool topic. It so different today even from when I was in the Navy. In the mid-80s there weren't cell phones galore, the innertubes, any of that good stuff. Stationed in the Indian Ocean all we had was a wireless communication network that charged us $5 a minute. The same when I got to Spain. When I first got there, if you wanted to call out, all they had was two overseas landlines that you had to put your name on a waiting list for, typical wait 45-60 minutes. And, again, about $5 a minute. They finally got a wireless set-up with 8-10 booths at some point, but it didn't get any cheaper. At least my parents could call in where I worked, but we weren't allowed to call out. Had to use the "public" lines for that. And lest your wonder why I couldn't get a phone out in town, there was a 2 year wait for a phone line. Not much point in trying to get one if you barely get it right before you transfer home.


tommyrot - Feb 11, 2015 2:52:36 pm PST #19060 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The maintenance man in my building is angry and depressed. He's fixing a leak in the unit above and over from mine, and he keeps loudly saying stuff like, "I'm fucking sick of this shit!"

In his defense the building is almost 100 years old and the landlord's a cheapskate so he keeps on having to fix broken old stuff that should be replaced.

Did I mention the front door to my section of the building can be forced open from the outside when it's locked? The landlord won't pay to replace the door or the locking mechanism so the maintenance guy keeps trying to get it so it'll stay locked, but the repairs fail after a few weeks.


esse - Feb 11, 2015 3:00:00 pm PST #19061 of 30000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

It so different today even from when I was in the Navy. In the mid-80s there weren't cell phones galore, the innertubes, any of that good stuff.

Yes! Absolutely--thanks for sharing your experience. And when you compare the Gulf War with the OEF/OIF wars, that ten years' difference represented a cultural shift that the military is still only just grasping. It's an incredible progression of communication and autobiographical accounting.


sarameg - Feb 11, 2015 3:03:49 pm PST #19062 of 30000

When my brother was in Macedonia in the late 90s (Kosovo,) he could call from certain pay phone phones set up at US domestic rates. I think they were satellite based, as there was a 3 second lag we got very adept at. He was flying drones, so. Occasionally, some contractor would try to pull a fast one and it would be international rates but since he was calling collect & it also announced the rate, so I'd warn him as I refused the call.

He destroyed several of those phones for that. As was the custom, apparently. One preferred method was when disposing of ordinance. Oh, and then return the 'defective' equipment to the contractors.


sarameg - Feb 11, 2015 3:05:34 pm PST #19063 of 30000

He also could email me. I have a folder of printed out correspondence from him (thank god, I lost all my email from that era in an epic hard drive meltdown.)


Amy - Feb 11, 2015 3:05:55 pm PST #19064 of 30000
Because books.

It so different today even from when I was in the Navy.

It's amazing to me that my brother could Skype with the kids while he was in Afghanistan. On the other hand, my dad was stationed in Scotland in '65 and '66, and I guess he and my mom relied on letters.


esse - Feb 11, 2015 3:10:06 pm PST #19065 of 30000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Oh, and then return the 'defective' equipment to the contractors.

HA.


Amy - Feb 11, 2015 4:23:34 pm PST #19066 of 30000
Because books.

Sara and I just made a successful chocolate mug cake. This could be dangerous.


-t - Feb 11, 2015 4:56:52 pm PST #19067 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Wow, SA, that's so interesting! Go you.

Couple of my co-workers took me out to dinner and it was just delightful. I got to take people I like to a new restaurant I like and have them be amazed at how good the food was, and eat delicious food myself. A whole bunch of wins all around.

Did I mention the chocolate-filled beignets last time I had them? So good. And now I've had candy cap mushroom bread pudding, which is unbelievable.

And I feel like I've been out scandalously late because I walked home in the dark, but primetime hasn't even started. Time, man. So weird.