Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jan 14, 2015 5:50:20 pm PST #15177 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

At that point he had figured out his body was addicted, and he was doing everything he could to manage his pain responsibly.

I am that patient. I only took percocet for 6 weeks before my back surgery -- but it was the maximum amount prescribed. I never missed a dose.

Because the surgery was so successful, I had zero pain when I woke up in recovery, so I stopped the percocet cold turkey, because no one told me not to. I had no idea I caused myself withdrawal.

My primary care doctor, who knows not only my history but my family history, told me, "You have an addictive physiology. Look at your family." And gave me a scheduled to taper it off, and it sucked, but less than cold turkey.

The kicker, though, was that my brilliant surgeon, who is the reason I can walk today, reacted to me telling him about the withdrawal by saying, "None of my other patients have ever had a problem stopping meds. Are you sure you weren't just sick?"

How do doctors who prescribe this stuff NOT KNOW what it does?


Consuela - Jan 14, 2015 5:50:58 pm PST #15178 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, Strix, I'm so sorry.

Congratulations to Katefate and Kathy!

I should have gone to the gym to lift weights tonight (my new years resolution) but instead I'm eating carbs and watching Agent Carter.


msbelle - Jan 14, 2015 5:51:00 pm PST #15179 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

was it here flea was saying Casper had the thing of not knowing hope to pronounce a word she's read?

if so Jessica mentions that same thing with regard to misled and ita's response:

"Persephone, I went as far as to think the infinitive of the verb was "to misle". I didn't find out until university, at which point my sister realized she'd independently made the same mistake."


Kat - Jan 14, 2015 5:53:06 pm PST #15180 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I have little to add on pain management nor on the hell that is the medical system, but I do want to say it's been nice reading posts from all of you.

If you think about it, it makes sense. ita was one of the people who brought us here and she still has that ability. There's something beautiful about her building community still.


-t - Jan 14, 2015 5:59:27 pm PST #15181 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yes.


Ginger - Jan 14, 2015 6:02:29 pm PST #15182 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Strix, I'm so sorry.


Connie Neil - Jan 14, 2015 6:07:04 pm PST #15183 of 30000
brillig

Hubby stopped filling his pain prescriptions because we had such a stockpile. He never took all the pills he was supposed to.

It sounds like something terrible, but he actually got better pain relief from booze. A slug of rum before bed would help him sleep better than three different kinds of opiates. And apparently that's one of the signs of alcoholism.


erikaj - Jan 14, 2015 6:10:11 pm PST #15184 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

How do I meet grown doctors who don't know what CP is? A million Americans have it right now(admittedly we all have it our own way, sort of) and it's not fucking great.


Dana - Jan 14, 2015 6:13:13 pm PST #15185 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I stopped the percocet cold turkey, because no one told me not to. I had no idea I caused myself withdrawal.

I remember that, and I almost said something to my mother after her mastectomy (and she's back on meds again after a knee replacement). But her doctors were very on top of things, so I figured it was better to keep my mouth shut rather than bring up another potential complication to her. And she's done fine both times.

But jesus, I want to punch your surgeon in the face, Steph.


Trudy Booth - Jan 14, 2015 6:18:37 pm PST #15186 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

My aunt's withdrawals after cancer treatments were a nightmare even WITH supportive doctors and daily IVs of whatever substances and fluids they were supporting her with. That people go through that not only unsupported but degraded? It's sickening.

This "good" drugs and "bad" drugs and "good" users and "bad" users paradigm is completely unproductive. Drugs can have undesired effects. Tolerance and addiction are among them. Here's some crazy shit - treat your patients as individuals and address whatever problems they develop.