Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


WindSparrow - Jan 14, 2015 5:00:56 pm PST #15165 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

We share your sorrow, Strix.


Hil R. - Jan 14, 2015 5:01:33 pm PST #15166 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Did he finish the sentence? That he'll start doing blood tests on you...to make sure you have that amount of drug in your bloodstream, because if you don't, then you're selling it instead of taking it.

He pretty much said that he trusts me, but that the medical practice (he's part of a big network of medical stuff) pretty much requires it at a certain point. I'm not sure what that point is, but I haven't gotten there yet.


Sheryl - Jan 14, 2015 5:03:46 pm PST #15167 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Congrats, katefate!

I'm sorry, Strix.


Steph L. - Jan 14, 2015 5:09:02 pm PST #15168 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Did he finish the sentence? That he'll start doing blood tests on you...to make sure you have that amount of drug in your bloodstream, because if you don't, then you're selling it instead of taking it.

He pretty much said that he trusts me, but that the medical practice (he's part of a big network of medical stuff) pretty much requires it at a certain point.

I should have clarified; I don't doubt that he trusts you, but yeah, once patients start increasing their dose, then doctors (or their uber-network) start suspecting drug diversion, rather than considering that patients who take opiates develop a fucking tolerance to it. It's like actual medical knowledge about the reality of how drugs work isn't even important.

I ought to ask my dad if he has to get tested. I don't think he's ever mentioned it, and he has a really high dose of oxycodone. Maybe his doctor thinks a 73-year-old man isn't going to sell it. And he never needs to refill early, so that might be a factor.


Zenkitty - Jan 14, 2015 5:15:09 pm PST #15169 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Oh, no, Strix, I'm so sorry. Condolences to your family.

What the fuck is up with this week.


Strix - Jan 14, 2015 5:17:41 pm PST #15170 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I skipped to the end of Natter, but thank you, thank you all so much. I gave D a Xanax and some soup, and we're waiting for his mom to call back.

Well, he's napping and I'm planning ; should have given that lightweight a half. But it's probably for the best he's sleeping instead of crying or fretting while we wait for paula to call.

I am overwhelmed. Thank god a crisis brings out the best in me.


Betsy HP - Jan 14, 2015 5:23:29 pm PST #15171 of 30000
If I only had a brain...

I'm really sorry, Strix.

Re drug testing, I'm afraid it's worse than that: when they test you they are also checking to see that your opiate levels aren't *higher* than they should be. I.e. "If we've decided you're in so much pain that you need this high dose, we need to make sure that you aren't getting pain relief somewhere else you filthy addict!"


Nilly - Jan 14, 2015 5:24:13 pm PST #15172 of 30000
Swouncing

Oh, Strix, my condolences.


JZ - Jan 14, 2015 5:26:00 pm PST #15173 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Betsy, Hil, SA and others, I don't know if you're on FB, but msbelle just posted this depressingly timely call for contributions:

What factors affect your health and well-being, besides access to doctors, hospitals and other medical care? An NPR reporter wants to talk to you about these issues, possibly for broadcast using your full name. Please email nprcrowdsource@npr.org about your experience and write “well-being” in the subject line.

(eta: I am copy'n'pasting instead of linking you to the NPR Facebook post because, unlike ita, I am merciful in my links. Suffice to say, it takes all of three posts before people start shouting about Big Pharma and toxic drugs and how you can cure diabetes with cinnamon oil.)

(You're welcome.)


Steph L. - Jan 14, 2015 5:28:47 pm PST #15174 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

when they test you they are also checking to see that your opiate levels aren't *higher* than they should be. I.e. "If we've decided you're in so much pain that you need this high dose, we need to make sure that you aren't getting pain relief somewhere else you filthy addict!"

I can understand that strictly from the POV of the dangers of overdosing, BUT that needs to go hand-in-hand with a way to safely treat that level of pain.

I get that drugs are diverted for illegal use (although some diversion is to *other* people living with pain who can't get treatment, so.). I get that people can overdose on meds that are legally prescribed. I get all of that. But what the healthcare system is currently doing is still not working.

t edit I know that's preaching to the choir.