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Beverly - Jan 14, 2015 11:30:53 am PST #15049 of 30000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I think no one who's a patient advocate would ever make it as high as head of ER. It's all about cost-effectiveness and covering the department and hospital's ass from any hint of lawsuit. You get a bean-counter who has no frame of human suffering for reference.

That pretty much applies in every field these days, I think.


Steph L. - Jan 14, 2015 11:35:30 am PST #15050 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I know ER doctors, one of whom is actually the director of an ER. And he would not give a shit about one patient's story. He's incredibly callous, he does think all patients who ask for pain meds are drug-seeking, and has a pretty dim view of the fellow humans he's supposed to heal.


Ginger - Jan 14, 2015 11:35:59 am PST #15051 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I understand David's impulse. I want one of those people to really see ita and know what they did to her.

In honor of ita, the blood test I just got took three sticks.


Steph L. - Jan 14, 2015 11:38:12 am PST #15052 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I understand David's impulse.

Oh, I understand it, too. It just feels so futile. And, again, I know I'm being cynical and grief-y and tired.

I can probably stop railing about the healthcare system. For now.


Zenkitty - Jan 14, 2015 11:39:55 am PST #15053 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

So much this. My mother's brain tumors were not caught because her doctor wrote off her increased pain as drug seeking and cut back her migraine meds.

Oh god, this is terrible. Honestly, that's got to be malpractice.

It's a whole mindset that's got to change. Not only about how much drugs to give and when, but to whom, and who "deserves" pain relief and who's probably lying.

I remember Melisa saying, what difference does it make if I get addicted to the drugs? I'm going to have to be taking them for the rest of my life, which is probably going to be short anyway; why does it even matter if I'm addicted to them? I thought it was a reasonable point.


Shir - Jan 14, 2015 11:47:43 am PST #15054 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

(Not in bed yet, I know)

A friend of mine is doing something amazing right now. While the healthcare system is Israel is better, privatization and not enough budgets made it go from OK to shabby in the past few years (for example: number of doctors and nurses positions in hospitals didn't change appropriately since 1972, while the population has doubled).

After going through a lot of troubles over a back surgery, she started collecting letters from people who have had the rough end of the stick of the healthcare system. She's sending them, 2-3 times a week, to the Ministry of Finance, Ministry of Health, and to the Prime Minister's office. Solely but surely, she got press attention, and the Minsters' attention. It's really an amazing project.


Maria - Jan 14, 2015 11:48:20 am PST #15055 of 30000
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

I can't even think about the clusterfuck that is pain management in this country right now. It makes me so angry, not just for ita, but for everyone else that needs it. It's wrapped up in so many layers that have nothing to do with pain, and people suffer needlessly.


WindSparrow - Jan 14, 2015 11:49:25 am PST #15056 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I celebrate Betsy's good news for her husband and son. I celebrate the cat on my lap, purring. I celebrate temperatures in the double-digits. I celebrate the blessing that is community.


Vonnie K - Jan 14, 2015 11:52:50 am PST #15057 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Talking as a person who's in the health care field, I gotta agree with most folks. The ones that get promoted to head positions are people who make for effective administrators. Their emphasis is on bottom lines, cost-cutting, getting grants, and avoiding lawsuits. Compassionate patient care trail behind these by a significant distance.

To a consumer advocacy or health care reporter might also help, especially if you could find one who either is a migraineur/euse or knows and loves one would also help.

This sounds like something that may lead to some results. Threats of negative publicity can be an extremely effective motivator.


Miracleman - Jan 14, 2015 12:02:27 pm PST #15058 of 30000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Skimmed a ton.

So, all about the ME now...rgh, what an asshome I am.

I've got this HULK SMASH! howl just aching to get loose. Class was a treat, gotta tell ya, with the idiocy of other people and the sincere ineffectiveness of the teacher. Nice lady, but HULK FUCKING SMASH!

Honestly, just not in the mood today, you know?

So, that's the what with ME. As I said, I skimmed; who needs some hugs/laughs/good thoughts? Ginger, I know you've had some rough times. So ((hugs)) from Miracleman, through the interwebs.

Anyone else? I'm done with the ME stuff.