Mal: Inara, think you could stoop to being on my arm? Inara: Will you wash it first?

'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Nov 23, 2014 7:38:00 am PST #11133 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Phone charging cable came unplugged during the night, I may not be able to function at all today. Thank dog Calli told me what to have for breakfast!


Zenkitty - Nov 23, 2014 7:43:31 am PST #11134 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I wish we had a Denny's around here. And a Perkins. And a Boston Market.


-t - Nov 23, 2014 7:46:05 am PST #11135 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It's a long time since I ate at Denny's.


Hil R. - Nov 23, 2014 7:48:49 am PST #11136 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I usually stop at Denny's for lunch on the way from PA to NJ, since it's at a good stopping point, and they've got some vegan stuff.


Theodosia - Nov 23, 2014 7:57:32 am PST #11137 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I can also report, by way of passing by it on an Uber trip, that the Market Basket lot is FULL before 8 AM on a Sunday morning.


Theodosia - Nov 23, 2014 8:04:37 am PST #11138 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Trader Joe's French Toast: my Instacart application is proceeding -- now I have to take some "online training".


juliana - Nov 23, 2014 9:13:27 am PST #11139 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

The online training is super easy, though.

Football: My Packers are doing what they do so well (kicking Viking butt). M's Lions are not faring so well against the Pats. We are both ensconced on the couch, checking our fantasy scores & refereeing cat tussles. A good Sunday, all told.


Laura - Nov 23, 2014 9:24:01 am PST #11140 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Yawn. I had a rare non-sleeping night. Woke at 1:30 am and knew I wasn't getting back to sleep so I read until 7:30 then went back to bed until 1:30 this afternoon. Football is on, but not really paying attention.

That sounds like no fun, Zen. I never went to my sister's house this summer although it is only a couple miles from my place up north. She came to mine a few times but we mostly saw each other daily at Mom's. She is pretty much a hoarder and her house is way less than clean from all reports. I knew I couldn't go there without engaging her about the issue and I knew we weren't going to have time to deal with it even if she agreed since we were focused on spending time with Mom. I may make a winter visit just to see if she will let me help. A couple years ago when I was near I would just push a pile of stuff off a corner of her couch and make myself comfy and didn't engage her. But it is that much worse now from what my nephew, son, and DH have told me. Ugh.


Theodosia - Nov 23, 2014 9:58:55 am PST #11141 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Sorry to hear that, Laura. I strongly suggest you watch a few episodes of HOARDERS which are still available online. Both to inure yourself (and remind you that as bad as it might be, it could be a whole lot worse, like the guy who had to climb up two stories to his fire escape because the condo door was blocked solid) and also to see how the family dynamics sometimes play out, so you can be emotionally prepared to deal.


Laura - Nov 23, 2014 11:20:29 am PST #11142 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I haven't dared watch that yet. I know her poor son has tried. He got her a new fridge because there was spoilage issues with her ancient one. It still was sitting on the outside porch because only she can clean out the old one and clear the path. She is fiercely independent and gets super pissy with anyone that tries to help with anything. She has an incredibly busy and full life and is rarely at home, which was surely how it all started. But at this point it has been quite a number of years since people have been able to go there.

The only leverage I think I might have is her 4 yo grandson. She worships him and spends loads of time with him. Of course all time is spent at his house. I'm hoping that she figures out that he is going to want to visit Nana at some point. Of course eventually her excuses for always doing things at other people's houses should get tiresome for her you would think.

Like the rest of the family and friends, I have always ignored it. None of my family (except me) are neat freaks. Clutter and dishes and all that doesn't faze me in other people's houses at all. Whatever, I go to see the people, not the tops of their counters! But her living conditions are well past that point. Unhealthy. It upsets all of us, even the messiest members of the family.