I've seen honest faces before. They usually come attached to liars.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Oct 03, 2013 3:35:10 pm PDT #7816 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

oh msbelle! Wow.

The government shutdowns (that were not over a weekend and thus incurred limited damage) was the '96 one and 3 in the 1970s. The 1970s ones were about 3 weeks each.

When this went on longer than 2 days, I figured we were in for a 3 week one this time. I'm worried that the extreme GOP don't take any of this seriously (the damage it can incur) and therefore are not really willing to raise the debt limit.


msbelle - Oct 03, 2013 4:15:19 pm PDT #7817 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Well, emails were written to teachers, teacher webpages have been bookmarked, and the.punishment has been given. FML.


SuziQ - Oct 03, 2013 4:23:25 pm PDT #7818 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

He did not manage to ever get the make-up classwork done in match class that we started a sag on over a week ago.

Not sure what a sag is, but I have a 17 year old with this issue.

He once again had no work brought home.

And this.

I made him come with me to check to parent online grade access

And this.

AND HE IS FAILING 3 CLASSES.

And this. It sucks mightily.

The schools are really focused on the kids learning to be responsible for their own work - a counter to the hovering parent syndrome, I think. The do not check that kids are writing assignments down. They do more stuff in class, so there is less homework. They have told the kids that they are responsible for going to teachers before or after school to make up or do work over. I get it and I should be looking at the online thing every few days I guess.

And this, this, this, and this.

I have told him I'm done. If he can't manage to get his work done and fails classes, I can't do a darned thing and if he has to repeat a year of high school...he made the bed.

But it is infuriating. I went to parent teacher night last week and two of those three teachers acted like there wasn't a real issue. The third teacher is a new chemistry teacher of Asian descent. And for her, the stereotypes hold true. Not that that excuses CJ not doing his work. At all. He is grounded from anything outside school and work (he teaches at the dojo).


Juliebird - Oct 03, 2013 4:23:33 pm PDT #7819 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

DD and new DH behaved badly (anti-socially) at a meet-and-greet tonight. Ignored all the guests and just chatted amongst themselves. Me and a colleague walked into the kitchen and she looked at me, said "Seriously?" and I was all "Seriously?!" and then "Please tell me that was blatantly obvious that I don't even need to speak to the ED". He's aware, thank god. DD is on the ropes already, and new DH has been making blunders left and right since she began and outright insulting the staff with her superior past experiences. I think we're all getting to the point that we want old crazy boss lady back. At least she had integrity and perspective and a strong sense of teamwork. Instead of a whole lot of "es no mi yob".


Jesse - Oct 03, 2013 4:38:52 pm PDT #7820 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Wait, what, you guys? Suzi, I don't know what stereotypes you're talking about and if they are Asian ones or new-teacher ones, and Juliebird, I don't know why you went into some kind of lazy Mexican (?) dialect, but.... Neither of those sat right with me.


SuziQ - Oct 03, 2013 4:54:30 pm PDT #7821 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Sorry, Jesse, I could have worded that better. The new teacher stereotype of not being able to control a classroom and not knowing how to redirect a kid who is boisterous. I mentioned Asian, because she herself, during our parent teacher discussion, said that she holds the kids to the "Asian sterotype" of mass amounts of work, in class and with homework and impossibly high standards.

I'm sorry my word choice overshadowed that fact that my child is failing 3 classes and I'm impossibly upset over that.


Juliebird - Oct 03, 2013 4:58:21 pm PDT #7822 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I worked with a dude (Colombian) who spoke broken English, and his favorite phrase was "It's not my job". It was such a quirk (by which I don't mean quirk, but really freaking hard to work alongside of or with -by which I mean his philosophy of not giving a shit) of his that it became part of my parlance when someone wasn't on the team, but only there to put in hours and do their job to the letter and no more.

It's not a (intended) slur against any general nationality, Colombian, Mexican or otherwise, but a carry-over from this one guy that I worked for who would go so far as to throw out my personal items that I had walked away from for five minutes, even though they were obviously items for work, because it was his job to take out the trash. I was doing an impersonation of a specific person in my history, with only intended ire directed towards that specific man. Out of context for all those who are not me or those that I worked with alongside the guy, I see that that looks bad.

That said, I do apologize if that offended.


Jesse - Oct 03, 2013 5:03:59 pm PDT #7823 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Reading those two posts in a row just threw me. Thanks, y'all.

I'm sorry my word choice overshadowed that fact that my child is failing 3 classes and I'm impossibly upset over that.

Oy! Buffista kids: GET IT TOGETHER.


beth b - Oct 03, 2013 5:10:20 pm PDT #7824 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

does this take CJ out f all the rescue stuff? because that shold matter more than anything.(to him)


SuziQ - Oct 03, 2013 5:29:32 pm PDT #7825 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I'm trying to give him this week to get crap fixed before I talk to Chief about doing a grade check. He knows that is at risk. I haven't clued KCD in yet either because I'll get yelled at and if he wants to track CJ's grades, he can check on them just as easily as I can. I just have no more energy to put into cushioning him from the fall. He knows he is screwing up and he knows what is at risk...let the chips fall where they may.

As much as I try to let go and let him deal, I'm exhausted over the whole thing and in a funk.