I think later it became "The Training" or something?

The Forum, and then Landmark. One of my friends has been involved with it as Landmark.

I think that's part of why I feel like I never really went to college, not in the way most people experience. Being in a classroom is one thing, but that whole campus experience was completely missing.

Yep, this. I only lived on campus one semester for my entire college experience. I would do things so differently now if I could do it again.

The Forum! That's right.

I have no real idea if it was good or bad, but she was one of the proselytizers who wouldn't be satisfied until everyone she knew had gone through it with her, and I didn't like that.

I also was at BU, Theo, but in the late 80s.

Landmark is also very involved in the Cafe Gratitude chain of vegan restaurants. I don't think they directly own anything, but the people who do own the restaurants are very involved in Landmark, and there have been a lot of allegations that they pretty much force all their employees to go to the Landmark seminars if they want to get promoted to management. (I won't go to those restaurants anyway, because they're the ones where all the dishes have names like "I am empowered" or "I am enlightened," and you have to order by saying, "I am enlightened," and then the waiter responds, "You are enlightened." If you don't order like that, then you don't get food. I'm willing to go through a lot of ridiculousness for good vegan food, but that's a bit too far.)

you have to order by saying, "I am enlightened," and then the waiter responds, "You are enlightened." If you don't order like that, then you don't get food.

Seriously?!

ION, wow, when I'm really procrastinating, I get awfully chatty.

I can't even think about the incident in the Nairobi mall. How is that the world we live in?

That led me to reading about Chicago murders this year, and, and, and...I've been up too long today already.

Yeah, I just saw that a Navy helicopter went down in the Red Sea today, fate of five personnel on board unknown, and I think I'm pretty much sticking with Disney movies for the rest of the day. (My brother would not be one of them, for the record, he's stateside.)

I only lived on campus one semester for my entire college experience. I would do things so differently now if I could do it again.

I lived on campus for two, because my parents refused to move me from the hostel in the UK into a flat in Montreal. Colin did for four, but he was RA his second year. It's fascinating how different expectations are, for as far as I'm concerned I had a totally American university experience.

But I keep calling it university, so there you go.