Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Sep 19, 2013 8:02:03 am PDT #5714 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It doesn't remotely look homophobic to me.


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2013 8:03:47 am PDT #5715 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Modern Family has a gay couple.

Yes, but do they have an equivalent gay couple? Does the couple get as much coupleness as the straight ones? I think by 2005 shows should know they can have gay couples without taking a hit--even get a bump from it. But neutered gay couples are hardly surprising.


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2013 8:04:38 am PDT #5716 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It doesn't remotely look homophobic to me.

Zero heteronormative reinforcement, zero ditching gay cooties? I can't convince my sister of any sort of parity in its face, though.


Amy - Sep 19, 2013 8:06:14 am PDT #5717 of 30000
Because books.

Yes, but do they have an equivalent gay couple?

The Modern Family gay couple gets lots of screen time, and story lines. They've adopted a kid (and another? I only watch sometimes), etc.


Strix - Sep 19, 2013 8:09:15 am PDT #5718 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

What about Curt and Blaine on Glee? Santana?


EpicTangent - Sep 19, 2013 8:11:26 am PDT #5719 of 30000
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Not network, but primetime - The Fosters on ABC Family has a lesbian couple as leads. (Or are you looking for M/M specifically? In which case, nothin' to see here, move along).


msbelle - Sep 19, 2013 8:13:12 am PDT #5720 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

yeah, the Modern Family couple is on par in all aspects with the other couples.


Lee - Sep 19, 2013 8:13:37 am PDT #5721 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Teen wolf had a M/M sex scene or two last season.

Two good things about today:

Thing the first: TJs has brought back the pumpkin macarons for the season.

Thing the second: I went and had my boobs smooshed on the way to work, and I got the all clear for the third year in a row.


Connie Neil - Sep 19, 2013 8:15:31 am PDT #5722 of 30000
brillig

Yay for positive boob smooshing.


EpicTangent - Sep 19, 2013 8:18:22 am PDT #5723 of 30000
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Yay good boobs! Keep it up! Or something...