I like money better than people. People can so rarely be exchanged for goods and/or services!

Willow ,'Showtime'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strix - Sep 07, 2013 5:03:24 am PDT #4552 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I have tea. And I made hash browns, eggs, and toast.

And I'm wishing it could be 75 degrees all day long.


Juliebird - Sep 07, 2013 6:02:48 am PDT #4553 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Woke up with a stick bug in my bed. All but one of its legs had been broken off. Poor dumb bug.


Lee - Sep 07, 2013 6:10:16 am PDT #4554 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

First day of vacation and the beasts woke me up before 6:00, so now I am out at breakfast before running last minute errands. I suspect there will be napping later.


Sheryl - Sep 07, 2013 6:22:47 am PDT #4555 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Took the cats to the vet for their annual checkup and shots. They are in good health(other than Nova's teeth issues). I, on the other hand, have several scratches on my right hand from trying to catch Luna.


Consuela - Sep 07, 2013 6:38:15 am PDT #4556 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Why are we so scared? Why do we keep doing that shit?

Oh, god, ita, I don't know. I mean, okay, maybe your sister or a sociologist who studies gender issues could write an essay on how masculinity seems to feel itself threatened; and on how masculinity is often performed for other men (which leads to a certain kind of group-think); and on how the very concept of trans people terrifies people who have been told since birth that their genitalia define their personalities, their social roles, and the ultimate disposition of their souls.

But in the end, I guess it comes down to a failure of empathy. Why we are so incapable of feeling compassion for others--even in the name of God!--is beyond me.

On that cheerful note, I would like to point out that it's supposed to hit 100 in the East Bay today. I might see if I can drag my father off to the movies. Or go to the swim club with my sister.


§ ita § - Sep 07, 2013 6:39:25 am PDT #4557 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

David Brin

I think if you're old enough that you'd statistically likely have died by then, even though you're niche famous, the shock factor drops. I wonder how many of the people on the bottom end of the age bracket would go through with it.

It's not the first reality show evaluation my friend has tried for.


§ ita § - Sep 07, 2013 7:11:25 am PDT #4558 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

D'you remember that British ST:TNG fan who redid his apartment like the new Enterprise? And then his ex-wife tried to sell the place, and no one would meet the price he set? Apparently he ripped it out and redid it like Voyager, which seems like a completely sensible response to events. I remember lots of fans (and sensitive men (who've been hurt by women, or would just love the chance to be)) complaining about how heartless his ex was for selling the place, but I don't know if the news mentioned how long he'd been unemployed while he'd been doing this in a building she owned.

ANYWAY.

He's going to prison.

Kiddie porn.

Remember the moaning and wailing about not understanding people? More of that.

Complete tone shift: is fandango.com down for you guys too? I've been trying to buy Riddick tickets since last night.


Steph L. - Sep 07, 2013 7:18:28 am PDT #4559 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

But we killed a crossdresser a few weeks ago. Why are we so scared? Why do we keep doing that shit?

A combination of homophobia, misogyny, and fear of The Other is my kneejerk response.

Tim pretty much only crossdresses at home or parties -- virtually never in public. But he dressed for the Pride festival this year, which has grown into a HUGE event. (By "dressed," I mean vintage Candie's wooden-heeled sandals, a denim miniskirt, t-shirt, and boobs. He never wears makeup. And now he has long Thor hair, which I think helps.)

So the Pride festival is down at a park by the river, and in general, the people who go are going to be people who are accepting of general gender non-normativity. (Although, drag queens aside, my experience of the LGBT community here is that the LGB part is not really enthusiastic about the T part.)

But even so, it's still public, and anyone could go to Pride to start shit, or just watch the freaks. And so I'm there with him -- and a large group of our friends -- and I'm torn between feeling comfortable and feeling really really...ALERT. Keeping an eye out so no one tries to start shit. And it's a little stressful.

It all went fine, and Tim was happy because he never really gets a chance to dress in public, and I'm glad he got to do that. I just worry. Because...people get killed for that, you know?


Dana - Sep 07, 2013 7:31:51 am PDT #4560 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

On a way more frivolous note, someone is supposed to be coming to buy the packing boxes and paper from the move. Pleeeeease let this work out so this shit can be out of the house.


flea - Sep 07, 2013 7:39:05 am PDT #4561 of 30000
information libertarian

When we stayed in Edinburgh with my aunt and uncle (in 2002), they mentioned that the room we were staying in was also used (long-term) by a friend of theirs who cross-dressed and needed a safe place to be able to do that and keep stuff. All parties involved are past 70 now; I can't imagine what it must have been like for that guy as a young man.