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Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Aug 19, 2013 5:05:31 am PDT #2885 of 30000

Grunge years were high school for me. So I kinda always envision high schoolers dressing grungy. Even though I know they don't.

Msbelle, is he not getting enough sleep? Or is he staying up when he's supposed to be sleeping? I feel like sleeping on the bathroom floor is something I've only done when I'm feeling super sick. That's just weird.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 19, 2013 5:10:45 am PDT #2886 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Oh dear, msbelle.

I have a question about "voter fraud" and "ID requirements". Where I vote, I go to my polling place, tell them my name and address, and they look me up in a huge book. The book has my signature in it. They cover it up, and I sign the book.

a) Is it like that everywhere

b) In order to "vote without an ID", therefore somehow committing voter fraud, you would have to know someones' name, address, and polling place, and that they weren't showing up to vote? It seems unlikely that voter fraud at any large scale could be committed without the complicity of the voting officials and/or the machine makers.


Sparky1 - Aug 19, 2013 5:14:27 am PDT #2887 of 30000
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Sophia, the laws are different in different states. Chart: [link]


Jessica - Aug 19, 2013 5:18:09 am PDT #2888 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

a) Is it like that everywhere

That's the standard in NYS.

b) In order to "vote without an ID", therefore somehow committing voter fraud, you would have to know someones' name, address, and polling place, and that they weren't showing up to vote? It seems unlikely that voter fraud at any large scale could be committed without the complicity of the voting officials and/or the machine makers.

Yes. That's why this kind of voter fraud is a bullshit issue.


meara - Aug 19, 2013 5:20:48 am PDT #2889 of 30000

Plus here in Washington we don't vote in person anymore. So really anyone could steal your ballot and complete it. I think in theory your signature on the outside of the envelope is supposed to match what's on file, but I don't know how they look at that.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 19, 2013 5:29:41 am PDT #2890 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

So really anyone could steal your ballot and complete it.

But no one is going to be able to steal enough ballots to have it be statistically significant, right?

I mean, I get that it is bullshit, but it seems like the fact that it is bullshit should be self evident to anyone who has voted (in NYS, at least). I am assuming other non-ID states have some measures in place that mean you can't just go from place to place voting willy nilly!


msbelle - Aug 19, 2013 5:39:16 am PDT #2891 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I assume he is having back to school anxiety coupled with just morning grumpiness and a whole bag of pre-teen I don't wannas.

Too bad his momma has a giant case of I don't cares and a side order of - we've done this for 7 years, straighten the FUCK UP.

I just had to go run an errand for work that took me right by the house so I stopped in to give him another chance to get dressed and come with me. Hells no. He had been up, enough to lock the interior doors and let the dog in. I left telling him that he would be alone for at least 2 more hours and if the dog peed or pooped, he was responsible for cleaning it up.


tommyrot - Aug 19, 2013 5:43:43 am PDT #2892 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Bull Terrier Feeds Goats with Milk Underwear


sarameg - Aug 19, 2013 5:45:17 am PDT #2893 of 30000

Oh, mac.

If you are going to watch youtube vids, at least use your headphones. I don't need to hear it down the hall.

I have a lot to do in the next 4 days. Unfortunately, a lot of it is waiting on other people who lack a sense of urgency.

Which they'll probably discover too late for me to oblige them.


WindSparrow - Aug 19, 2013 5:51:18 am PDT #2894 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

In Minnesota, you go up to the table, they check your name & address in the book, and you sign. I don't think the book has a copy of the signature to match it against. They also do same day registration, wherein they ask for something like a utility bill with your name and address on it, a photo ID, or you can be vouched for by someone in that precinct who is already registered. So the first time I went to vote here after moving in with Daniel, he vouched for me, and I showed them nothing other than myself and my desire to vote. So in this case, in order to vote fraudulently, someone would have to have the cooperation of another person from the neighborhood. Yeah, it could be done, but this is not the way large-scale voting fraud gets accomplished.